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QQ Early facing turn check/raise - help!
mistergj
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December 25, 2010 - 4:48 pm
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This is the 4th hand of the tournament so no reads. I hate these situations, since there are no flush draws and only A5 and 56 got there in terms of straights, and 42, 43, 32, 92, 93 and 94 seem unlikely so I think this has to be a set, right? Unless of course he thinks his A9/K9 is good? Do you get it in here?

 

Absolute Poker $22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t5/t10 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG: t2000 200 BBs
UTG+1: t2000 200 BBs
UTG+2: t2095 209.50 BBs
MP1: t1975 197.50 BBs
MP2: t1660 166 BBs
Hero (CO): t1880 188 BBs
BTN: t2155 215.50 BBs
SB: t2020 202 BBs
BB: t2000 200 BBs

Pre Flop: (t15) Hero is CO with Q of spades Q of clubs
UTG calls t10, 2 folds, MP1 calls t10, MP2 calls t10, Hero raises to t65, BTN calls t65, 1 fold, BB calls t55, UTG calls t55, MP1 calls t55, MP2 calls t55

Flop: (t395) 2 of spades 9 of diamonds 4 of hearts (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t257, BTN folds, BB calls t257, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds

Turn: (t909) 3 of clubs (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t400, BB raises to t800, Hero???

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December 26, 2010 - 4:46 pm
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No way he has 5,6 or A,5 esp considering only had gutters on flop and 3 people behind him.  Looks like set to me or some kind of silly 2 pair type hand that was being cute but even that is odd turn raise with 2 pair.

Set seems pretty likely or he's a goofball.

Big pairs are the devil early in tourneys and 20 people calling you pre makes it worse.   

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December 26, 2010 - 7:09 pm
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I think I am stacking off or doubling here.  You might see AA,KK, or a set, but I think you will see a random spaz out w TT or 9x a lot of the time as well.  As early as it is, I don't think you can be faulted for folding this, either.   

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December 27, 2010 - 2:40 pm
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on ap, with their blind structures early on i change up my raise sizes. ur raise was correct in terms of blinds and the callers pre but 65 chips is not enough to make any1 go away pre. i mean raising 65 this early while evr1 is deep stacked is danger. i woulda raised to about 150 – 200 with prem.

villian could have nearly anything. but sets are very reasonable. folding is never bad but i dont think calling/jamming is ever wrong either. just all depends on ur style and stages of tourny

i call.

 

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December 27, 2010 - 8:19 pm
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I agree with Bjizz is making the initial raise bigger in order to get rid of some limpers. Also with the hand I have no problem getting it in. I rarely think hes turning over A5/56.. I also don't think you should be that afraid of the min. 3bet. I'd put him on top pair low kicker or he turned some kind of draw. Would have a really tough time putting him on a set but it would make sense for him to flat 22,33,44 OOP. I call, r/c the river i think.

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