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September 27, 2016 - 9:17 am
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Hey everyone-

We’re 7 handed. Paying 6 spots. $50 bounties. $800 up top, $120 for 6th. $130 for 5th.
Small blind limps. He’s a reg but doesn’t know how to play short stacked. He’s sitting with 24bb. I have about 60bb or so.

I raise to 2.9bb with QJo. He calls.

My range for him limping is 22-88, suited connectors, KT+, AX. My range for him limp/calling is pretty much the same stuff. I didn’t expect to get folds here, but the stacks behind were about 3x the pot once he calls.

(7bb) T92r 

Check check

Villain didn’t exactly look like he was over it and going to play aggro on me, but I certainly didn’t want him to check/call me if he outflopped, and me have to shove on the turn with 20-25% equity. I figured checking back would give me the option to call correctly on the turn, or to take a more aggressive stance if he checks again.

(7bb) T92s8s

Villain goes all in for 21bb and has

ATcc and I’m handed $50.

Live poker.

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September 27, 2016 - 11:42 am
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What is the question?

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Assuming he is ahead now is it not just a maths spot to see if you have the odds to call.

7b in the pot plus his 21 so 28 you have to call 21 so your pot odds = 21/(28+21) = 43%

Your equity needs to be higher than this.

If you think your Q and J are live then you have 14 outs = 29% ish so fold

Think even if he makes a pot size bet you have to fold here unless you think you had fold equ then you can shove over the top.

If you think he is doing it with a flush draw I think as much times as your Q high is winning it can still be loosing to a flush draw with kx, ax flsh draws. Then there are semi blfss 8x with flsh drw, etc. Shving like this looks to me like one of these type of hands as gets a tonne of fold equity with a lot of equity if called but also could be strong hands that wanted xr the flp and now wants to price out any draws you might have.

Fold in my mind.

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SKAHfish said
… as your Q high …

I think you misread the hand, T92r turn is an 8, hero had QJ for str8.

@ Jacob, why not cbet flop with OESD and high cards?

Also I just notice you post first: (7bb) T92r  and then for turn: (7bb) T92s8s
There was a flush draw otf?

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The r stands for rainbow. The turn was a second spade. Assuming his QJo had no spade.

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joelshitshow said
The r stands for rainbow. The turn was a second spade. Assuming his QJo had no spade.  

I guess I take notes different, for me would be T92r8ss (second suit)… well… smile

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Well, I’d never seen anyone do it that way, so I was guessing as well. (But that’s OK. We’re all a little different. Some of us more different than others :))

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I don’t really see why you wouldn’t bet the flop. If he’s limp-calling such a wide range, you still have a big range advantage on that board and QJ is basically the best bluffing hand in your range.

I think I’m fine with just betting ~4bb on the flop with the intention of either checking behind or jamming the turn depending on what it is and how quickly he calls flop. If he check-jams flop we have around 50% equity versus one pair so we should be fine calling it off.

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