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jacobsharktank
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December 22, 2014 - 9:28 am
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This is the 7.5k $11 10k stack with 10 minute levels mtt on bovada last night.

We're at 50/250/500 and registration is still going for a while.

We're 8 handed and it folds to the small blind with 28.87bb and QcJh – I raise to 2.098bb

Villain, running 20/10 over 2 orbits. He limped utg last hand called sb lead on AAX board lost hand on turn or river, I missed action.

SB has 42.378bb and quickly calls 1.098bb.

(4.796 bb) 5c Th 4c

Hero (26.772) bets 1.738 bb

Villain (40) raises to 3.476 bb

Hero raises to 26.772 bb and is all in.

thoughts?

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December 22, 2014 - 3:58 pm
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Hey man, we talked about this a bit but wanted to post ITT:

Preflop:

Generally I would tend to make my sizing a little bigger here like 2.75-3.25x or so with entire range. This discourages super wide flatting and also reduces villain’s positional advantage.

Flop:

I like cbetting here and once raised vs. a relatively unknown player I prefer to 3bet/fold instead of 3bet jamming huge. You are somewhat letting villain play his hand perfectly when you make the big jam. If you 3bet to 10bb, it is going to be immediately profitable a lot of the time, you can fold to 4b jam, and when called you can just ship lots of turns and have great amount of fold equity. Villain is not going to bluff jam your 3bet, and if he does it’s going to be with something like 6c7c or Ac6c where they have plenty of equity. When you just jam you are going to fold a lot of villain’s range, but you can also do that by 3betting 10bb and then piling turns, and you get more value.

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December 22, 2014 - 4:24 pm
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Nice post jacobshark, and ballsy move. I wouldn’t presume to critique your play myself but I like what douggy said very much as well.

Is it ok to fold to the Cbet raise or are you fighting for the pot with this stack in this situation every time?

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December 22, 2014 - 5:26 pm
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Oh wow, no, you should definitely critique man! Someone called me a wizard today. Now there’s a word that gets thrown around too liberally. lol no. Not even close. I want to be a wizard, but alas I’m a man. A nerdy, scrawny man with very little overall understanding of poker.

Doug and I keep talking about this hand outside of the forum, but i’ll bring it in. Some quick thoughts to jot down before I have to leave work-

On raise sizing, I think minraising should be fine and still profitable as a steal all on its own because of the discount we have from the sb. Raising to 2x risks 1.5 to win 3.8, needing a 39.47% success rate to break even. I don’t think this player will defend 60% of hands, so I can raise 100% of the time here. Raising to 2.5x risks 2 to win 4.3, needing a 46.51% success rate to break even. The 7% difference in defend rates necessary by the bb probably makes a good difference. I wouldn’t necessarily open 100% here, because I don’t want him to freak out about not seeing flops and start playing back, but if I got like 3 for 3 spots through or I witnessed him fold his bb 5 for 5 overall, I’d probably raise 100% and scatter in walks somehow.

on the flop cbet, I definitely would be bet/folding the flop normally, and probably too much (to the point that he’s exploiting me even without realizing it) I felt that given game flow, he was bending a bit and was going to try to raise over wide and with a very weak range. I wouldn’t do this every time. Overall, I think even though there’s a flush draw and the low straight draw, it’s a pretty dry flop considering its a sb open and a bb defend. Both of our ranges are still wide here. I simply took my backdoors+overs and his weak range to mean shippit.

After talking with Doug, I like the 3b to 9-10bb instead and ship. I don’t think his ranges change much (so maybe I giving up unless I backdoor) between 3betting 9-10bb and 3betting to 26 and all in.
gotta get going, thanks for the discussion guys!

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