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July 12, 2013
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I've been working this guy over on my right and all my chips have come from him. He's a complete spew. Previous hand he open raise 2x from sb, I 3b to 6bb, he calls, he bets flop, I call… turn he bets I reraise and he folds. And we've played a few hands previous where he has folded to every reraise I've made… Most of which were reraises on the turn he folded.
Just a line check… Turn reraise sizing? River are there any b/f's? Or anything else…
Cheers guys!
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t/t Blinds – 9 players – View hand 2291682
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
MP2: t14050 1 BBs – VPIP: 24, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 6.0, Hands: 54
CO: t13170 1 BBs – VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
BTN: t18109 1 BBs – VPIP: 77, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 39
Hero (SB): t30349 1 BBs – VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 7, AF: 1.9, Hands: 50468
BB: t17070 1 BBs – VPIP: 13, PFR: 1, 3B: 0, AF: 1.8, Hands: 79
UTG: t20566 1 BBs – VPIP: 20, PFR: 5, 3B: 11, AF: 0.0, Hands: 20
UTG+1: t19652 1 BBs – VPIP: 31, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 75
UTG+2: t8844 1 BBs – VPIP: 43, PFR: 29, 3B: 13, AF: 1.7, Hands: 70
MP1: t16672 1 BBs – VPIP: 13, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 54
Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is SB with J
Q
5 folds, CO calls t0, BTN calls t0, Hero calls t0, BB checks
Flop: 5
Q
8 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN bets t900, Hero calls t900, BB folds, CO folds
Turn: (t1800) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t1500, Hero raises to t3999, BTN calls t2499
River: (t9798) 9
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
October 21, 2012
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I would possibly raise pre to thin the field out.
As played, I would bet fold the river.
July 12, 2013
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Ya Loxxi… I hear ya. I find in these micros that in this particular situation w LP callers if I go 6x I honestly don’t think I get many folds if any. And then playing multi way oop still.
I actually just realized too it doesn’t show correct pot and didn’t post blinds or blind levels. Weird!
June 8, 2012
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his bets normally huge? cuz he bet big on turn so id CR more, c4775. since hes folded so much to your turn CR prior, you have to expect hes gonna eventually find the call button on his screen…get more value in there. deff b/f river.
July 12, 2013
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his bets normally huge? cuz he bet big on turn so id CR more, c4775. since hes folded so much to your turn CR prior, you have to expect hes gonna eventually find the call button on his screen…get more value in there. deff b/f river.
Pot size isn’t correct. Doesn’t show antes and blinds if you look at the initial action.
June 14, 2013
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Blinds 200/400?
Raise 4x pre. It's true that you are not likely to pick up the pot right away. But don't forget you also want value in the pot for when you hit toppair.
Your hand is good on a lot of T, J, Q, K or A-high flops. It plays quite easily post flop in my opinion.
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June 11, 2012
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dont like raising pre. QJs plays very well multi way. i would consider raising QJo to thin the field but as said you need to make it big and then you are not even sure to get i HU
the rest i think is well played.
prob a smal 1/3-1/4 PSB on the river to get max value out of his weak Qx
ch/ca if he is the kind of spewy player to rep a board like that without it,
up to 1/2 pot if he'll call u with Qx, J9, etc.
wish the replayer gave a better sense of stack depth and pot size…
March 21, 2013
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lapp3r30 said:
Ya Loxxi… I hear ya. I find in these micros that in this particular situation w LP callers if I go 6x I honestly don't think I get many folds if any. And then playing multi way oop still.
I actually just realized too it doesn't show correct pot and didn't post blinds or blind levels. Weird!
Basically I would raise for value here pre. Don't mind if people call with worse hands and most good hands AQ/KQ would already have raised…. in micros I basically always raise any broadway hands for value. Further I'd B/f river 1/3 ptsz.. I don't expect villain to b lufraise you and think you can get calls from worse Qx
August 31, 2013
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Preflop I would raise IP or vs one limp. Here I prefer to just call (if you raise make it x5 imo). I would raise just a little more turn, something like 4.3K.
I think betting 1/3 pot for thin value / block bet is fine. If he rivers 2 pairs or has Qx he is probably gonna call if he is spewy. It also avoids you a tough decision if you X and he shoves.
I guess we can argue a X/C river because of his profile but the problem is that it's very difficult for him to have air total (unless something like 74ss). He probably has at least one pair on this board and I don't think he would turn that into a bluff. So bet/folding > X/calling imo
July 12, 2013
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Thanks guys… Appreciate the feedback. Only thing after considering everything is I think a 1/4, 1/3 river bet seems actually a bit weak. If were targeting Qx hands, and worse 2pair hands I think 1/2 pot should be min river bet. If he’s calling Qx hands and worse 2 pair he’s calling 1/4 and 1/2 pot isn’t he? I don’t see many players at this level jam over without having it so I’m not concerned about losing the slightly larger bet. I am concerned about not getting the value out of the hands I have crushed. Is this thinking out of line?
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September 28, 2012
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There is two main factors to consider here when trying to decide between bet and check on river and nthey both have to do with his bluffing tendencies.
1. Bluffing over a bet: a lot of people wont do this on this board, but some fish will, if he is that type you have to be hesitant about betting the river because knowing his bluff v value frequency in this spot is really hard in game so you are increasing your risk a lot, especially in the middle stages of the tournament. If you expect he doesnt bluff ever over your bet, I am betting here all day, except:
2. he bluffs a lot checked too: the problem with this is that the board, outside of the straight draw, is very dry. yes we have a turned flush draw but there are a lot of things working against him having a lot of FDs in his range:
– he bet flop
– the two flush draws are the two highest cards on board(specifically the higest card on flop)
– he is IP on turn and can check turn
– the turn card IS NOT an over to the board so the chacnes of you folding are slim
– the card nails your range
So its unlikely eh will bet many bare flush draws here unless he thinks you have something like 87 a lot. So this mena his range is weighted towards value hands, of which you crush the vast majority(that flat turn and didnt hit straight). So there is sitll a lot of value to be had. Not to mention your rnage is pretty capped to either the turned nuts or no straight(with random flush draw+10 hands thrown in), so he will call fairly wide(but amy also bluff because of this, but hes a fish so not a huge concern).
So, in summation, my deafult here a majority of the time is to just value bet(liek 40-50% pot) and expect to be good a lot, and we can easily fold to a raise.
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