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April 27, 2015 - 7:38 pm
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#Game No : 689175934
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 689175934 *****
$50/$100 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #68541638 $1.80 + $0.20 - Table #11 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: prokaznik43 ( $3,030 )
Seat 2: xEi888Poker ( $2,670 )
Seat 3: bacak41 ( $3,578 )
Seat 4: Edilca_grind ( $2,843 )
Seat 5: jackpot9999 ( $5,908 )
Seat 6: chrisg6912 ( $2,900 )
Seat 7: london_ace ( $2,463 )
Seat 9: vedrasdrag ( $1,947 )
Seat 10: arnakuagsak ( $5,152 )
chrisg6912 posts small blind [$50]
london_ace posts big blind [$100]
vedrasdrag calls [$100]
arnakuagsak folds
prokaznik43 folds
xEi888Poker folds
bacak41 raises [$200]
Edilca_grind folds
jackpot9999 folds
chrisg6912 folds
london_ace calls [$100]
vedrasdrag calls [$100]
** Dealing flop ** [ 8club, 9heart, Aheart ]
london_ace checks
vedrasdrag bets [$100]
bacak41 raises [$400]
london_ace calls [$400]
vedrasdrag calls [$300]
** Dealing turn ** [ 2club]
london_ace checks
vedrasdrag bets [$100]
bacak41 raises [$2,978]
london_ace ??
 
 
 
 
Hey
 
 
reads - Limper is a loose passive fish , the other oppoenent has been very active , raising pre nearly always.
 
 
I was unsure if i should jam pre? pre antes though i decided to flat,  Good flop for me , i think im ahead of both opponents ranges, though
when villian raises flop i was not sure what to make of it they could be raising pretty wide given that villian bet the mininum
, they could be raising some draws here or maybe a hand like JT which i'm ahead of. Hands that beat meare A8/A9,  AJ/AQ/AK , though their range seems so much wider then that
 
as for the turn , do we call/fold?



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I don’t like it, I would fold. Even with the Ace on the turn, you are still playing 3 handed. UTG player led the betting in the last 2 streets. You have top pair and not-so-good kicker. I think you’re facing a dominating Ace, two pairs, set, middle pair connected with the board (flush draw/straight), ..in this case there’s so many outs for the V. That he could be semi-bluffin here.

Again, at this point you may still be ahead, but I don’t like to call on the turner with top pair weak kicker.

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I don't think you have to jam pre. I'd just 3bet to like 600, think you can fold to most shoves.

As played, seems like a pretty clear fold on the turn. Just because you expected to be ahead of ranges when you see the flop doesn't mean you will always go to the felt, ranges get stronger as people put more money into the pot.

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@foucault, if we 3-bet , im pretty sure we're going to be commited if they 4-bet shove? ATo is really close , i may have to do the maths for this though, i think we may have enough equity to call.

 

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