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April 20, 2015 - 6:38 am

#Game No : 686999107
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 686999107 *****
$25/$50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #68306547 $5 + $0.50 - Table #25 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Panner75 ( $1,605 )
Seat 2: konked ( $3,643 )
Seat 3: Aquar1us112 ( $5,554 )
Seat 4: london_ace ( $3,559 )
Seat 5: Vulxx ( $1,109 )
Seat 6: YellowNokia ( $3,555 )
Seat 7: MyTimeIsN0w ( $2,675 )
Seat 9: gogogoal ( $3,000 )
Seat 10: Brabarella ( $2,347 )
Panner75 posts small blind [$25]
konked posts big blind [$50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ Jd, Kd ]
Aquar1us112 raises [$100]
london_ace calls [$100]
Vulxx folds
YellowNokia folds
MyTimeIsN0w folds
gogogoal calls [$100]
Brabarella folds
Panner75 calls [$75]
konked folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 3, K, T ]
Panner75 checks
Aquar1us112 bets [$150]
london_ace calls [$150]
gogogoal calls [$150]
Panner75 folds
** Dealing turn ** [ 5 ]
Aquar1us112 checks
london_ace checks
gogogoal checks
** Dealing river ** [ 8 ]
Aquar1us112 bets [$675]
london_ace folds
gogogoal folds

Hey

Reads – V1 (intaial raiser) has been opening often enough pre , they sure do like to play pots , they seem quite aggressive too , i've not seen any showdowns.

V2 Is a good reg and im pretty sure he's a winning reg as well , hade made a load of final tables and seems like a competent player.

First of all i'd like to say , i don't like my call pre , i think 3-betting pre would of been better. Anyone agree?

my range is also going to look pretty strong when i 3-bet a UTG open and given that he's OOP he's going to fold a bunch too which ain't bad for us and if he does call we have a decent hand that flops pretty well. Bad news is we have some reversed implied odds , though it's not like we're going to stack off with top pair here , unless we think he's really bad and will pay us off with lesser hands.

I would have prefered my call if we were in late postion , by calling we could create a multi way pot which ain't bad but someone could also 3-bet and put us in weird spots post flop.

POSTFLOP

flop is standard , though on the turn , i was tempted to bet , i don't think there's going to be much Kx in v1 range but v2 could also have stronger hands like KQ i would think they'll probably raise it up OTF with monsters like 33 TT or KT so i dont think those are in there range.

anyway we get to the river and villian 1 bets 3 quarters of the pot, and it seems like they may be doing this with there missed draws like AQ/AJ/QJ. Though is it possible they'll play a hand like AK this way? they may think they can't get 3 streets of value vs 2 opponents , so they've checked turn to re-evaluate and bet for value otr. all in all i just think there's more bluffs in v1 range and as for v2 there range seems marginal or air. I actually think i may have the best hand here, unless v1 got lucky and rivered a set but i think again thats unlikely since i reckon they would of checked this otf.

thoughts please do we call/fold otr?

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April 20, 2015 - 11:29 am

I fold pre. Your hand is iffy even for opening UTG1, let alone calling an UTG raise. Don't see a lot of value in betting turn. River is certainly a call in a vacuum, as it's a great bluff-catcher, but I'd feel comfortable assuming most of your opponents don't bluff too often in this spot.

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April 20, 2015 - 7:38 pm

Have you been recently reading dan harringtons book? lol joking 😛

So even if we know villian is opening up often you still think its a fold? i mean he might be opening wide from even UTG? There must be at least some merit in 3-betting here?

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April 21, 2015 - 11:56 am

Your reads on UTG only go so far. There are seven other people in the hand, and that puts a pretty hard constraint on what you can get away with.

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