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June 9, 2010 - 3:20 am
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Full Tilt Poker Game #21480318228: $15,000 KO Guarantee (165424010), Table 30 – 1200/2400 Ante 300 – No Limit Hold’em – 3:12:15 ET – 2010/06/09
Seat 1: Mav0818 (77,462)
Seat 2: R u serius1 (85,076)
Seat 3: Bonds252525 (212,664)
Seat 4: bucky2007 (131,100)
Seat 5: the driver46 (125,472)
Seat 6: naked_pervert (332,638)
Mav0818 antes 300
R u serius1 antes 300
Bonds252525 antes 300
bucky2007 antes 300
the driver46 antes 300
naked_pervert antes 300
Mav0818 posts the small blind of 1,200
R u serius1 posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bucky2007 [Jh Jc]
Bonds252525 raises to 6,800
bucky2007 calls 6,800
the driver46 folds
naked_pervert: obv it ain’t tony danza
naked_pervert has 15 seconds left to act
naked_pervert raises to 21,200
Mav0818 folds
R u serius1 raises to 84,776, and is all in
Bonds252525 folds
bucky2007 folds
naked_pervert has 15 seconds left to act
naked_pervert: fcuck it, let’s go
naked_pervert calls 63,576
R u serius1 shows [Qc Qd]
naked_pervert shows [Th Ts]
naked_pervert: oops
bucky2007: jj
*** FLOP *** [Js 4c Ks]
*** TURN *** [Js 4c Ks] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 4c Ks 6d] [8c]
R u serius1 shows a pair of Queens
naked_pervert shows a pair of Tens
R u serius1 wins the pot (186,152) with a pair of Queens
bucky2007: DAMNIT

 

did i do this right?

 

 

 

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June 9, 2010 - 3:51 am
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reads would be cool, but that is damn close imo.  how active have you been?  3betting lots? 

edit- I misread that, I don’t think it’s all that close tbh, I muck this comfortably vs. an unknown, would need a really good read on both to call here.

 

you should remove the results from the HH to allow everyone to be objective.

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June 9, 2010 - 9:37 am
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I mean its not a snap fold table dynamics are defenetly part of this hand. But if there are no reads and everyone has been playing pretty much abc. Then a fold is optimal here.

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June 9, 2010 - 8:39 pm
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ya, I fold this here. Sucks really bad to see the J come off on the flop, but after the action you are in serious  trouble.

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June 9, 2010 - 11:14 pm
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Definitely a fold unless you have some crazy dynamic. You don’t have any fold equity and are doing pretty bad against the 4better his range (and then you still have to guess if the 3better is bluffing or raising here with a legitimate hand).

JJ vs QQ+,AK has only 36% equity.

if you would get it all-in 3way; JJ vs QQ+,AK vs QQ+,AK would have 26% equity….

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bigdogpckt5s said:

I mean its not a snap fold table dynamics are defenetly part of this hand. But if there are no reads and everyone has been playing pretty much abc. Then a fold is optimal here.


This would be my thinking too.

 

Someone jokingly wrote on 2p2 ” the only correct way to play JJ is to 4bet/fold it”

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