This needs to be moved to the suggestion box forum

…..rs-251252/

If anything in the history of internet poker has ever been “MUST READ” then it’s this thread.

edit- Note that this is a high stakes hand, and that these guys not only know what they’re doing, but also why it’s profitable to make the shove.  I’m not saying that you should be jamming 25bb’s with QTo+ every time you get it, but this thread certainly shows you why it’s profitable.  Look at the post Gobbo makes in post #17 for an idea of how wide you can jam, especially if nobody is calling you correctly.  Something else to look at is the fact that this thread was made 2 years ago by a HSMTT reg– just goes to show that this game evolves, and quickly at that.  People are calling these 20bb shoves lighter, but really only at highish stakes; we micro-fish can still get away with a lot of this shit.

I think it certainly stands to be a really good discussion on how this changes with different stack/stakes/players/images, etc., maybe a catch-all containment thread devoted to “Is this shove unexploitable/+EV?”