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poket jj in a 180 man 20 buyin non turbo
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May 24, 2010 - 6:20 pm
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PokerStars Game #44566714289: Tournament #276074525, $20+$2 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XI (400/800) – 2010/05/24 16:06:03 MT [2010/05/24 18:06:03 ET]
Table ‘276074525 1’ 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Eriklad5 (4315 in chips)
Seat 2: Darkyy (17373 in chips)
Seat 3: Network213 (10758 in chips)
Seat 5: InFlames86 (14784 in chips)
Seat 6: DBT7 (31492 in chips)
Seat 7: sladgie (29705 in chips)
Seat 8: just1cool (37227 in chips)
Seat 9: bikopoker (15150 in chips)
Eriklad5: posts the ante 75
Darkyy: posts the ante 75
Network213: posts the ante 75
InFlames86: posts the ante 75
DBT7: posts the ante 75
sladgie: posts the ante 75
just1cool: posts the ante 75
bikopoker: posts the ante 75
InFlames86: posts small blind 400
DBT7: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DBT7 [Jc Js]
sladgie: folds
just1cool: raises 1600 to 2400
bikopoker: raises 3700 to 6100
Eriklad5: folds
Darkyy: folds
Network213: folds
InFlames86: folds
DBT7:????

 

 

i have no reads on the lead raiser however the guy 3 betting has been 3 bet folding a few times,

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May 24, 2010 - 6:55 pm
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Definitely a tough spot.  I’m actually really torn on it based on your read. 

 

Question:  Was he 3-betting people after a full 3x?  Was he 3-betting an early position raiser in the prior hands?  What were the situations where he was 3bet folding? 

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bikopoker: raises 3700 to 6100

Seat 9: bikopoker (15150 in chips)

 

Seems like pretty damn committed to me.  I’m folding here and preserving your awesome stack for better spots.  We’re praying for AK here but crushed otherwise.

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May 24, 2010 - 9:11 pm
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wein i had only seen him 3 bet later postion bets this is the 1st early postion raise hes 3 bet , i agree with the fold the reason i posted this is because players are uaslly abit wider utg these days balancing there ranges ect , in these lower limits i really see so many utg raise folds ect , and i no the 3 betting guy is 3 betting pretty wide im just wondering if i ever profite by 4 bet jamming i think flatting here is awful,

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yeah his sizing with that stack is just SO strong. like at first im thinking, “how can he ever fold 88-TT?” but then i realized he’s prob shoving 88-TT/AQ/AK and this might literally be just the tip top of his range.

 

i certainly don’t hate a fold but i do think it’s REEEEEAAAAALY close

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i don’t think it’s particularly close at all– villain pretty much never has AK here since, as hagbard said,  he shoves it, as with AQ and pairs smaller than JJ, plus we still have to worry about the original raiser.

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In the muck! This might even be a spot where I could see folding QQ pre in a 180 man slow structure with a big stack. It’s just not a game where you need to gamble it up in order to go deep. You have nothing invested and can abuse the smaller stacks later on.

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