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pokerstars final table 20k,a4 suited wrong play??

arvan1985

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October 10, 2010 - 6:10 am

Poker Stars $10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15000/t30000 Blinds + t3750 – 9 players

we are at the final table of 20k at pokerstars.the viilain is very aggresive player and many times i saw him 4beting and folding at shoves.i think that i destroyed my chances to win this hand by betting the turn.i think that calling the river is wrong decision despite i have 15 outs.but the point of this hand is that there is a story between me and villain.at least 2 times he opened and i made both 3bets and the fisrt one he made 4bet and folded to my shove and the second he just folded.he is capable to shove with air i think(hands iam ahead now) but it would be a crazy shove.so do you believe that the best game is check/call the turn??

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thedududu (UTG+2): BB = 24.5, t734215
YouOweMeAwe (MP1): BB = 27.3, t817555
Hmtk (MP2): BB = 38.7, t1159590
Chiliii (CO): BB = 12.9, t385892
BarnyStinsen (BTN): BB = 32.5, t975709
lowfolder (SB): BB = 55.1, t1654433
Hero (BB): BB = 32.2, t967333
chainseeker (UTG): BB = 45.3, t1358123
d shawshank (UTG+1): BB = 30.2, t905150

Pre Flop: (t78750) Hero is BB with A of clubs 4
3 folds, YouOweMeAwe raises to t62345, 4 folds, Hero calls t32345

Flop: (t173440) 3 of spades 9 of diamonds 2 of clubs (2 players)
Hero checks, YouOweMeAwe bets t75656, Hero calls t75656

Turn: (t324752) 8 of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t180000, YouOweMeAwe raises to t659326, Hero folds

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Cougars4444

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October 10, 2010 - 10:19 am

I'm not a huge fan of the flop float. I'd probably go ahead and chk/shove the turn when you pick up your flush draw

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October 10, 2010 - 1:01 pm

Not a huge fan of calling with 32bb OOP with ace rag suited. More times than not we're gonna be in trouble like now. If decided to play, I would atleast 3bet/fold to shove OOP. Play std post flop if he calls 3bet. cbet/fold to chk raise or any floats. As played have to agree with cougars4444 and I indeed hate the flop float. But if we do float flop then we have to get to the river, cheaply or aggressively. Check/call or check/shove turn. The 180k bet is likely the bet ur gonna call if u dont lead, which gets us to the river and a chance to smash our hand…

Sooo….

1) fold pre

2) if play, 3bet/fold to shove. if called, cbet and shut down to all other action

3) if called pre, fold flop

4) if called pre and floated flop, chk/call or chk/shove turn

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October 12, 2010 - 3:49 pm

these are the spots i hate myself for flat calling in and trying to play ace rag out of posistion. i understand that its the final table and smashing flops are huge at this point but by calling here you have to be prepared to make big laydowns and if your intention is to float any flop than you are going to play your self right into a 20 bb stack in a matter of minutes when you fold and the bb goes up

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October 12, 2010 - 4:19 pm

A4s is a good 3 betting hand. You have an Ace blocker and your hand also has a decent chance to fliop well with flush draws, wheel draws, or hitting your A which will be good a majority of the time.

My question is… you've already 5 bet shoved once and 3 bet and got a fold against a guy you say is very aggressive then why did you decide to flat out of position here?

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