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Poker Stars $10 - 44bb reshove with 88
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October 2, 2011 - 9:28 am
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Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

buffsa (BB): BB = 6.2, t1560
W_DACOSTA (UTG): BB = 27.9, t6980
jrbanana1000 (UTG+1): BB = 55.4, t13859
ZuTuZ (UTG+2): BB = 7.2, t1808
greedyFULL (MP1): BB = 116.7, t29183
NikoSavy (MP2): BB = 46.8, t11700
pataj666 (CO): BB = 16.6, t4150
Hero (BTN): BB = 52.2, t13046
DannyGatward (SB): BB = 44.9, t11215

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with 8 of spades 8 of clubs
5 folds, pataj666 calls t250, Hero raises to t798, DannyGatward calls t673, buffsa raises to t1535 all in, pataj666 calls t1285, Hero raises to t13021 all in

 

Standrad reshove to isolate? or too many bb to go crazy?  Only 8 hands with both callers, SB hadnt done anything spewy, and CO was passive

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October 2, 2011 - 11:17 am
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Not a good iso spot given the action. What ranges are you putting SB and CO on? Seems like some big hands and don't think you are getting both players to fold so the whole iso shove is out imo (iso part not gonna happen). Just flat and proceed post-flop.

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October 2, 2011 - 4:11 pm
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If Pata's not a fish you're going to be behind a lot in this spot. He could end up rolling over slightly bigger pairs since he won't flat and fold very often at all. I think I'd just flat and look to play no set no bet poker here instead of blasting off.

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October 3, 2011 - 10:35 am
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Pata did seem pretty fishy after 8 hands(!!) had limped or called pfr on 4 of them….

By iso I didnt mean getting pata to fold, but the sb.  Obv pata limps, then calls off another 5bb of his 16bb stack, I didnt really expect him to fold the other 10bb – I was thinking I dont mind getting it in agaisnt 16 bb on what is probs a flip or a lower pair…..

thinking that im probs up agianst –

pata (CO) he limped then called a 6bb shove with 10bb left – as much as it does happen occasionaly I dont think he is doing this with AA,KK, QQ so I'll put him on {22 – JJ, AXs, Q9s – QJs, QJo – KJo} and I've been a bit depserate in picking anything that wasnt a low PP tbh

SB – don't feel like its necessary to put him on a range as I believed he's got a hand he'll call 3.2x raise but not a 44x shove, so I shoved.

 

Against the SS and the SB I know Im gambling, but only for 16bb max, and feel like I'll have the passive CO and his small PP crushed most of the time…

 

Let me know if you think this is flawed thinking, or if its an unnecessary gamble….

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Given the action it seems very unnecessary. I think SB folds most of the time like you said but still seems like gambling with close to 20bb's when you are likely dominated by at least one villian and SB still to act with 45bb's is bad. Feel like your stack can be used in much better spots instead of gamble for close to 1/3 stack and possibly more.

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