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April 15, 2012 - 9:34 am
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hello guys, looking for some advise here.

I find myself in simallar situations often and dont know what to do. I find lots of players limp in, somtimes up to 5-6 way action (small steaks online or live grandmas and newbees) I have ben taught never to limp, either raise or fold, so I 2x the mid to bottom of my range (A10,99,KQ, AJ…ect) i get 1-2 callers flop is somthing like K47, I cbet 1/2 pot (almost always) even when i miss and player x always calls because he hit the K with his K4, or hits the 7 with his A7

I do this maybe two or three times early on and i find myself short stacked early and punt my stack off with say 88 and get called bu JJ,QQ and im out?

any thoughts would be great. thanks

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April 15, 2012 - 10:35 am
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 When you make this play. which i do the same in any pos but the blnds, with pairs and ace suited..anything strong obvious we 3x +1 for every limper..Keep in mind if your getting 3+ callers cbet loses all effectiveness . Somtimes you'll be ok, with callers out of the blnds, just trying to see the flop now given the odds. This play i think is good and bad. Heres the deal as u do this and the players see this a lo,  they start not taking your best seriouslly. So then when you have your monsters your gonna get stacked off a lot. The bad part is that you will slowly chip down. At some point you have to stop. My mark is usually 40bbs..But you really just need to stop cbetting pots with multiple players unless youve hit solid draws, pair combs, etc. More then likely, almost always with 3-5+ players, youve been out flopped. This play you are doing with multiple limpers is to really just inflate the flop for when you do hit, and take the initiative..Stop Cbettin any air, unless you got nice cards to rep, w only one play oop against u , or even in pos. And when u have 3 callers, and one is one of the blinds, cbetting will still be effective….

  Well i just reread your post before i posted this. I originally saw 5-6 way action. Which i'm now surprised at what you say, cuz we are all missing the flop almost 70% of the time. So your view has to be a litte bit skewed at them hitting there K4 and A7s. EVERY TIME..its just not possible. If you are only getting one caller or 2 callers I'd say continue to cbet, or just stop min raising marginally. But if you do this, you have to be great at hand ranging, and able to fire more bullets on further streets..Keep in mind you have to be well schooled to play this way, and a strong postflop player. it takes time, and a lot and pracitce, but it's very effective play. You could just be folding far more hands. Also keep in mind its ok to limp behind in mulitway limped pots, in pos, or out of the blinds with any pair, or suited aces, n broadways, etc..to flop the hidden set,str, or flush. Sometimes you will stack off this way with your well hidden monster. If  your getting mulitpe callers tho refer to the top. GL

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April 15, 2012 - 10:42 am
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also refer to mike leah videos..they will help you tremendously

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