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Playing JJ from UTG

luckyyykat

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July 28, 2010 - 6:46 am

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3000/t6000 Blinds + t600 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

sadam83 (SB): BB = 28.7, t171951
GMP84 (BB): BB = 48.6, t291564
spochampally (UTG): BB = 22.1, t132387
UCB_BEARZ (UTG+1): BB = 44.5, t266760
1luckeeDude (UTG+2): BB = 65.2, t390970
Hnd2Die4 (MP1): BB = 26.5, t158903
jaytj03 (MP2): BB = 47.0, t281824
sAv1oLa (CO): BB = 7.4, t44114
ifipant (BTN): BB = 21.6, t129783

Pre Flop: (t14400) UCB_BEARZ is UTG+1 with J of clubs J of spades
1 fold, UCB_BEARZ raises to t13500, 2 folds, jaytj03 raises to t31550

So how would you guys play these type of hands? I have a question in general about JJ, 1010, 99 in different positions. If you had 30 BB's would you play any different? If UTG raises with the same stack sizes would you 3-bet or flat? If stack sizes were different such as 20BB on both ends, would you do something different? Of course, reads are necessary in this spot, but with no reads, I don't know what to do.

rcfromtn

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July 28, 2010 - 7:38 am

40+bb's- I'm either 3 betting or flatting UTG's raise(probably 3 betting more than flatting)…..depends on read how tight is he has he shown a tendency to open to light UTG….blah blah blah…..thenplaying post flop pokahz

30bb's- I'm flatting or 3 betting getting it in ( probably flatting more than 3betting)….evaluating the flop and then deciding if I'm ready to play for my stack.

20bb- 3betting(more often than not 3 bet shoving)

Your situation you are deep enough to flat and play post flopIMO

dvmarcilio

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July 28, 2010 - 8:02 am

Without any reads, in your spot, I probably would be facing a tough decision between flatting and folding. Playing OOP after the flop with a guy that also has a big stack, not really sure if it's good. Sure you have a good hand, but not* a great one IMO.

If I had a stack<25 BB I guess I would 3bet shove almost always. My tought is that you still have some fold equity and you are hoping, at worse, to face two high cards. If it´s a higher pair, yeah, it happens.

As I am starting in this whole serious playing, I'm looking forward to see more people sharing toughts and even some refuting my toughts and teaching me some stuff.

JDOG1645

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July 28, 2010 - 10:57 am

Its ackward, whats our read on him, whats your table image? We is raising a UTG+1 open so he knows your probably not but so light. We are ahead of TT, AQ, AK, would he be repopping us light? Probably not. If you jam 2/3 of the time we race or are dominated 1/3 we are dominating. If we flat OOP whats our plan? On a non broadway board I would check jam and go with it. If there are broadways check and play accordingly. Tough hand.

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July 28, 2010 - 11:48 am

Tough spot. Too spewy to 4 bet and fold to a shove, I think. Stacks seem too big to jam.

I probably flat here.

You can probably size your opens a little smaller, too. 2.2x will still get you folds and you conserve some chips.

As for your other question it's a simple jam with a 20 bb stack because you're in reshove mode looking to double and with 30 bb's you're probably going to 3 bet/call a shove.

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