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October 16, 2015
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Hi, I’m generally used to playing flush draws aggressively, usually check-shoving all in on the flop, but I’m not sure if that’s the most optimal way to play when you’re still really deep stacked..
I played this hand recently:
https://www.jivaro.com/profile/ColdZer0/posts/566089bed7b14b7307f5aa27/
Is there a better way to play that? I could have just called but his bet on a kind of dry flop seemed like just a standard c-bet when he missed the flop. I just 3x raised him instead of raising all in because shoving 100bb on such a small pot feels kind of wrong.. or should i just have shoved my whole stack for more fold equity if I’m going to call his shove anyway?
Is there any way I should have folded after he shoved on me? I had 33% equity with no overs to the board and needed 39% to be profitable but wasn’t exactly sure if he could do this as a bluff or with a slightly weaker flush draw and middle pair (maybe 87s or 67s)
Are there any specific circumstances when I should play my flush draw more passively? Or was this just unlucky?
Thanks for the help!
April 30, 2015
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With no information about the villain’s tendency, in your place, I would have check-called flop. And when K hits the turn, depending on the price villain gives us, I will check-call again as we picked up 4 additional outs for straight. I am not totally averse to your raise here on the flop as you could be representing a big Q or better and raising to put flush draws to a test, but once he shoves all-in, I think this is a fold as he isn’t doing this without an over pair, a set, a bigger flush draw or a big Q, against which you have about 20% and it is not enough to call off.
Feel free to beat me up if my analysis doesn’t make much sense!
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December 6, 2012
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What other hands would you raise on this flop, besides flush draws? I definitely wouldn’t recommend shoving, you’re risking way too much to win too little, and also making your hand pretty transparent.
April 30, 2015
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Foucault said
What other hands would you raise on this flop, besides flush draws?
I am raising exclusively over pairs and big top pairs on this flop. Since this is not a connected flop per se, there are no 2-pairs that I could be having. But if this is a 2 pair kind of a board like 2JQ or 2TQ, I might even be raising 2-pair. I think there is not much value in raising a set here unless my table image says I am a compulsive raiser. As far as calling a shove goes, set or open-ended straight and flush draws, and 2-pair in some cases.
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December 6, 2012
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I don’t see a lot of value in raising the top pair/overpair hands, for a lot of the same reasons that you aren’t raising sets. What I’m getting at is that I don’t think this is a board where should be doing much raising in position with strong hands, and consequently I don’t think you should raise many draws either. That doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t play them aggressively, but you’ll do in a way that’s consistent with your strong hands, which may be raising a turn bet, betting into a turn check, etc.
June 23, 2014
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Yea I would never be playing this hand like that. With a FD on flop in position 100bb deep with really not a ton of chips in the middle, is this a position to risk your tourney life. Let him c bet that’s fine, villain is just building the pot for you if you do in fact hit the Flush. If he bets again on turn and you miss just let it go.
Only time I have ever played that aggressive with FD on flop and am looking to check/raise is when I’m playing cash because I want to take the pot down. When your this deep and the Blinds are at 15/30 not sure if doing something like this is ever worth it. I also don’t believe that players at the micros are double barrelling at you with nothing, sometimes yes but not very often.
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