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January 14, 2014
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New to the forums. So bare with me if I am explaining not according to forum protocol….
Situation : Isle Open (Pompano Beach). $200 40K guarantee live tournament… 233 entries… approx. 40 players left. 23 get paid. (min cash $377). Blinds at 1200-2400 (300 antes)… about to go up to 1500-3000 in 6 minutes.
I have approx. 21-22 big blinds (51K or so). One of the shortest stacks at my table.
I am in the Big Blind.
** Under the gun plus one (big stack over 100BB) raises to 5100 (been raising a lot and capable of folding to a big reraise).
** early mid position player with over 80BB just calls the 5100 raise. Been calling lots of small raises pre flop.
** late position player with 80K in chips “goes all in). Player is aggressive. but I have not seen him 3 bet before.
**folded to me in BB and I have AK off suit.. With the blinds about to go up and my current stack size of low 20 BB’s… I did not put the “all in player” on AA or KK. I felt pushing (or calling his all in) with some added money in the pot from the first two players) gave me a chance to win a very big pot (over 110K) with AK. If I called the all in and won. I could be sitting pretty with a nice stack and potential deep run. I could be at worse (or best) racing/flipping the all in player if my thinking that AA and KK was not in his range since he pushed 80K…. The other side of my thinking is I still had low 20 big blinds left (about to get lower when the blind raises shortly). So “folding” here and not risking my tourney on a flip is a consideration. As there was still two other early position raisers in the pot. Plus I obviously had no fold equity calling the all in.
I hope I explained this well. I sincerely love to get your feedback on how you would play my situation here.
August 21, 2012
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Yah I think you summed it up nicely. The way you described the villains they are capable of being light. 81k is a lot to shove IMO. Seems like an odd line to take but probably not AA, KK. 1010, JJ most likely IMO or also AK, maybe aq with bad aggro players.
Live it’s not an easy call where I play as I find I can navigate a 10-20bb stack pretty well. That said there is a lot of dead money in the pot and I’m willing to take a flip here. We have the top of our range and winning this spot puts us in a great position to win so it’s time to gamble.
March 26, 2013
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I think you have to call in this spot.
Original raiser could be wide and probably only calls 80bbs shove with QQ+, maybe AK+, caller can be calling to see a flop deep stacked v deep opponent and doubt ever shows up strong here, shover probably does not do this with top of his range (AA/KK) but certainly I have seen weaker live players shove big chips with such hands in the past but probably don’t remember the hundreds of times when they just value raise with those hands. Most likely range for shover I think is AQ+, 99+ (maybe stretching with 99 but possible).
I’m pretty sure with 20bbs or so that this is an opportunity not to be missed if you want to win the tournament rather than min-cash even without the added incentive that blinds go up very soon.
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August 3, 2011
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yeah you definitely have to call from that stack. I mean it is AK and we aren’t playing the tournament to min cash. If you had 40 bbs I think you could argue a fold in a good structured live tourney but definitely not your stack. Just win the flip or chop the dead money.
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