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Playability of 88 OOP
almofadinhas
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December 21, 2017 - 7:27 pm
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Hello TPE! Feels like a long time I have being away, also feeling like a donkey… well:

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 14,381 (71.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 7,504 (37.5 bb)
UTG+2: 2,493 (12.5 bb)
MP1: 1,961 (9.8 bb)
MP2: 4,222 (21.1 bb)
MP3: 5,728 (28.6 bb)
CO: 4,579 (22.9 bb)
BTN: 3,095 (15.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8spade 8diamond
3 folds, MP3 raises to 400, CO folds, BTN calls 400, SB folds, Hero ?
MP3 was kind of a regular, BTN was a tight and passive guy.
3bet GII? 3bet fold? Set mine?

calls 200

Flop: (1,500) Theart 3club Kspade (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, BTN checks

Turn: (1,500) 6spade (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 615, 2 folds

Results: 1,500 pot
Final Board: Theart 3club Kspade 6spade
Hero mucked 8spade 8diamond and lost (-425 net)
MP3 mucked and won 1,500 (1,075 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-425 net)

Edit: I think it was a PKO MTT, I am not sure, I don´t know where to find it on HM2

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December 22, 2017 - 9:06 am
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In non-bounty tournament I’d flat-call this probably 90%. 

If you 3bet here and get flated by one of the Vs, you’re playing a hand which flops very poorly OOP in a 3bet pot. Without a very strong read I don’t see much reason for doing anything else here. 

In PKO I would consider shoving here depending on the bounties, but I see it’s an early level so I assume those bounties are not worth risking 90% of your stack, especially given that you cover almost everybody on the table and you can find plenty of more profitable opportunities to win bounty. 

 

So I will flat call hoping to flop a set or steal the pot by check-raising on some dry board. 

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I would also just call in this situation either PKO or not. By adding up the antes, SB and BB you are almost getting the correct odds to call and set mine in this situation. If you add in getting one of the players stacks if the set does show up you have more than the right odds to call in this situation.

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DonKerrigan said

 By adding up the antes, SB and BB you are almost getting the correct odds to call and set mine in this situation.”

With the implied odds of hitting the set you are getting way better odds than you need.

I am calling this every time. Well, 95% anyway. I guess for the purposes of some kind of balance I am shoving it sometimes also.

kardi31 said:

So I will flat call hoping to flop a set or steal the pot by check-raising on some dry board.”

Are you check-raising only as a bluff? Or are you c/r your set of 8’s also? Obviously this depends on the board, but about 2 years ago I came to the horrifying realization I was c/r as a bluff only! I was never c/r my v. strong/ nut hands. Any time I c/r, it was 100% a bluff. I wonder what the correct ratio of nut/bluff c/r % is? My guess is that if you are c/r your nut hands at all, you need to be c/r your nut hands 75% and bluffing 25%. I have studied balance for years and I’m still clueless lol.

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