Today's first MTT was a re-entry $5 with $1 for bounty turbo (5 minute levels) and starting stacks of 3000.
 

I recently posted about trying to understand which risks/how many risks are the necessary ones – that not knowing the answer makes it difficult to know how not to be “results oriented.” I'm sure most players battle the “bad beat” issue early on, and I think I've got a handle on it.  I remember hearing on videos “don't be results oriented,” about getting sucked out with a good hand, or running into AA when shoving near the bubble.

I sure hope I have a handle on those issues, because below I describe what seems to be a slightly higher level issue, more difficult to understand.

I can't tell if certain risks I don't take in MTTs are detrimental to my game when I make a fold that seems like it could be a shove or flat and see situations where I would have “gotten lucky” or sucked someone out.  Would a pro have folded in these hands and said “oh well, I can't be taking those risks” OR would a pro have played this hand somehow, and his suckout is the reason he often loses an extra $5 but sometimes wins an extra $250?

Earlier on in my learning I would have been too tight to even consider the first of the hands I'll post below.  But now that I'm trying to understand more creative play, the task is, of course, knowing when to be more aggressive or more loose, and when an aggro play only looks to the amateur like a good spot. 

A long time ago I thought “aggressive” mostly meant betting and raising instead of knowing, for example, when to call against wide ranges in turbo bubbles or at any final table.

Please correct anything I'm saying if it sucks, by the way.

So today I played this turbo re-entry MTT, it should only be lasting 3 hours and I should be studying many hands that occured.  But here I ask about two hands which confuse me in this reverse-bad-beat kind of way.  And please forgive me, but I am going to show the results of these hands mostly considering the subject matter I am struggling with.  Usually I don't post unneccesary results with hands.

#1)

Blinds are at 10/50/100, just started antes.  I only have 24 hands on the villain. He was at 25% hands played, 0% open raised, and 21% limped. We have no Cbet number on him, he has 3bet 0% and stolen 0%. He had been folding for several rounds, and played this hand right before hand #1:

Merge Network $150 Gtd – [Turbo, Knockout] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50.00/t100.00 Blinds + t10.00 – 9 players – View hand 2348271
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Golf10 (SB): BB = 26.1, t2610
redrockview (BB): BB = 33.5, t3350
MeLo1027 (UTG): BB = 27.9, t2790
NatTurner108 (UTG+1): BB = 30.0, t3000
STEELCITYROUNDER (UTG+2): BB = 26.4, t2640
cincykid42088 (MP1): BB = 53.0, t5295
TheCRamey (MP2): BB = 60.6, t6063
Hero (CO): BB = 31.3, t3130
zubs1aaa (BTN): BB = 36.8, t3684

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is CO with (it doesn't matter, this isn't the hand)
6 folds, zubs1aaa raises to t200.00, Golf10 calls t150, redrockview calls t100

Flop: (t690) T 9 T (3 players)
Golf10 checks, redrockview checks, zubs1aaa checks

Turn: (t690) 7 (3 players)
Golf10 bets t345.00, redrockview folds, zubs1aaa calls t345

River: (t1380) 8 (2 players)
Golf10 checks, zubs1aaa checks

Golf10 (villain) showed down T9, full boat. 

There you have a good piece of information on him and about the situation.  Tight seeming player, not too tight, waits a while and calls the min raise in the SB, shows down a speculative preflop hand.  The very next hand is hand #1:

Merge Network $150 Gtd – [Turbo, Knockout] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50.00/t100.00 Blinds + t10.00 – 9 players – View hand 2348276
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Golf10 (BTN): BB = 34.4, t3435
redrockview (SB): BB = 31.4, t3140
MeLo1027 (BB): BB = 27.8, t2780
NatTurner108 (UTG): BB = 29.9, t2990
STEELCITYROUNDER (UTG+1): BB = 26.3, t2630
cincykid42088 (UTG+2): BB = 52.9, t5285
TheCRamey (MP1): BB = 60.5, t6053
Hero (MP2): BB = 31.2, t3120
zubs1aaa (CO): BB = 31.3, t3129

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is MP2 with 8 7
1 fold, STEELCITYROUNDER raises to t200.00, 4 folds, Golf10 calls t200, 2 folds

This is the risk I didn't take.  After 70 hands, STEELCITY is playing 20% of hands, limping 3%, open raising 9%, Cbetting 100% and stealing 18%.  I'm facing many players behind me and the raiser is in early position, his range 55+, A7s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQ, JTs+ Again, a long time ago I would have said “I'm going to be tight and I won't get exploited here just because my cards look pretty” but is this the type of spot you need to take risks?  I decided to fold, staying conservative.  Then:

Flop: (t640) 6 3 7 (2 players)

Would a pro have attempted to make a move here?  At this point I was thinking “well, I'm sure my fold was pretty good because I'm staying out of a situation that can win me a small pot or lose me a big one.  But anyway, let's keep looking.”

STEELCITYROUNDER bets t300.00, Golf10 raises to t600.00, STEELCITYROUNDER raises to t1500.00, Golf10 raises to t3225 all in, STEELCITYROUNDER calls t920 all in

I'm thinking “I was definitely right!”

Turn: (t5480) 7 (2 players – 2 are all in)

River: (t5480) J (2 players – 2 are all in)

Golf10 showed down TT.

Was I right to avoid this situation?  I would have “sucked out” Golf10 – all the money would have been in with me the underdog.  But I have heard time and again the pros say in videos that you have to take risks.  Does this count?

#2)

Later in the same tournament after I had to re-enter, this situation came up.

Merge Network $150 Gtd – [Turbo, Knockout] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t75.00/t150.00 Blinds + t15.00 – 8 players – View hand 2348270
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

HunterBirdman (BTN): BB = 73.0, t10954
Hero (SB): BB = 18.5, t2778
IWikesKittiez (BB): BB = 17.7, t2658
ciorex (UTG): BB = 56.8, t8522
krp104 (UTG+1): BB = 20.0, t3000
MeLo1027 (MP1): BB = 20.0, t3000
cincykid42088 (MP2): BB = 137.7, t20649
S1RV1VOR (CO): BB = 24.4, t3666

krp104 is being loose and fishy after 13 hands, playing 67%, limping at first, but basically tilting now.  Hunterbirdman is LAG and (I think) a good player.  After 47 hands he's playing 38%, raising 22%, limping 12%, 3betting 12.5%, Cbeting 100%, stealing 47%, and restealing 0%.

Pre Flop: (t345) Hero is SB with 6 6
1 fold, krp104 raises to t2985 all in, 3 folds, HunterBirdman calls t2985, 2 folds

2 all ins and I'm holding 66.  I know the first guy is wide, and the second guy is not on the strongest range either.  But obviously between two all ins, it's easy to be a total dog. 

Do we risk this because the tourney won't be young forever?  Or do we pass because we don't have any fold equity and because even if I have the best hand I'm likely to just get eliminated?

Flop: (t6315) K 8 9 (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t6315) J (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t6315) 5 (2 players – 1 is all in)

krp104 had Q7 and Hunterbirdman had AQ

Yes, I would have tripled up.  Would the pros be holding an extra 6300 chips because you gotta take risks?  Or do the pros fold and say “hoo haw” if they happen to see the results?

Thanks for any and all responses!  Have a great afternoon.