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Merge – $4+$0.40|<> NL – Holdem – $3,000K Guaranteed players Rebuys and add ons.
After the rebuy period
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (UTG+1): 9,775.00 (20 BBs)
MP: 3,926.00
MP+1: 13,112.00
LP: 21,797.00 (43 BBs)
CO: 17,040.00
BTN: 19,442.00
SB: 21,444.00
BB: 21,791.00 (43 BBs)
UTG: 12,315.00
Hero posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, MP+1 posts ante 50.00, LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 250.00, BB posts BB 500.00
Pre Flop: (1200.00) Hero has J
Q
the table was very tight at this point with the excpetion of UTG who already folded and The BB who is a 40/10 and seems very capable.
So I know this is a pretty loose open, feel free to comment on that, but my plan was to call shorty if shoved and fold to a 3Bet. Reevaluate flop.
fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 1,086.00[/color], fold, fold, LP calls 1,086.00, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 586.00
Flop: (3958.00, 3 players) 9
J
3
BB checks, [color=red]Hero?
Now I hit my top pair and my hand is over represented as I expect Villains to put me on AJ+, 55+ and KQ
It will get interesting, I promise, and hold no punches…
I don’t mind the open too much, although I think I probably fold pre most of the time, and wait for a good spot to 3bet jam in the next orbit or two. With the two 40-plus-bb stacks seated to our right, I’d probably be waiting and picking spots to shove on them.
But we open anyway. 
MP’s flatting range should be tight if he’s any good at all, considering your stack size. If it were a top winning reg, I’d be ready to fold most flops, because his flat looks like a huge hand.
There are also some mediocre leaky regs who are idiots and will flat you here with hands (more than likely they’re ZOMG SOOTED CARDS) like KJ, AT, QJ, JT, Ax, etc., or a small pair, because they don’t understand that your 20bb utg1 opening range crushes those hands and they just see pretty cards and clicky clicky….
Readless, I assume the flatter in the hijack has the buttonclicky suited Broadways/small pairs range.
The big blind’s defending range depends on the type of player he is. If he’s good, he’ll recognize your opening range to be strong at that stack size (he should assume that the hand you actually have is at the very bottom of your opening range, if you’re opening it at all). However, with the flatter in between, the big blind could feel priced in with a fairly wide range.
So when they both flat, we’re going to have a stack to pot ratio (SPR) of about two.
If we miss, we have to shut down given the tight range the hijack should be flatting us with, and given the fact that it’s a three-way pot.
If we flop any straight draw other than AKx, I think our plan should be to do whatever is necessary to get it all in on the flop.
If we hit top pair, it’s going to be very difficult to get away from. Personally, SPR 2 means I’m rarely, if ever, going to fold top pair.
So we’ve hit top pair on the flop, with a stack to pot ratio of two, with a flush and straight draw on the board. Neverfoldaments. I bet kind of big here…1965/call. Hopefully we get raised all in by someone with a draw, because at this point we’re pot committed.
Does anyone like just shoving this flop because of the commitment issues a cbet is going to cause? How about check/shoving?
What about check/folding and just chalking it up to a steal gone bad? Seems weak but idk…..
isaacjames said:
The BB who is a 40/10 and seems very capable.
Capable of what? Drowning in his own drool? 
LOL…I missed this when I first read the OP. A 40/10 in the big blind is probably defending close to 75% of hands vs a standard 2x open. He could have you crushed with J3 or 93. 
rivermen123 said:
I think I probably fold pre most of the time, and wait for a good spot to 3bet jam in the next orbit or two. With the two 40-plus-bb stacks seated to our right, I'd probably be waiting and picking spots to shove on them.
I agree this is the right play here in general. Not trying to justifiy the open but I do open up my range in tables/tourneys where there is so little 3betting and so many uncontested pots pre and on flop as this table was, anyway this is a fold for me most of the time as well.
A 40/10 in the big blind is probably defending close to 75% of hands vs a standard 2x open. He could have you crushed with J
Yes that was my read.
So we've hit top pair on the flop, with a stack to pot ratio of two, with a flush and straight draw on the board. Neverfoldaments. I bet kind of big here…1965/call. Hopefully we get raised all in by someone with a draw, because at this point we're pot committed
I disagree here I am pot committed already . I have 17 BBs here and feel that I can bet fold and still use a 15 BBs stack to reshove on late opens of 40BBs stacks with some fold equity.
I will now let some more answers come and then continue with the hand. Thanks for the analysis so far River.
isaacjames said:
I disagree here I am pot committed already
I will now let some more answers come and then continue with the hand. Thanks for the analysis so far River.
I mean you're pot committed once you cbet since about a third of your stack is in the middle at that point. Maybe that's cash game thinking though. Hopefully someone can straighten me out.
i dont think we need another analysis…rivermen is pretty much spot on. deff cbet flop. if it was J52r, i like a chk. but im not planning on folding unless we cb, flatter raises, and BB sticks it in.
Merge – $4+$0.40|<> NL – Holdem – $3,000K Guaranteed players Rebuys and add ons.
After the rebuy period
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (UTG+1): 9,775.00 (20 BBs)
MP: 3,926.00
MP+1: 13,112.00
LP: 21,797.00 (43 BBs)
CO: 17,040.00
BTN: 19,442.00
SB: 21,444.00
BB: 21,791.00 (43 BBs)
UTG: 12,315.00
Hero posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, MP+1 posts ante 50.00, LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 250.00, BB posts BB 500.00
Pre Flop: (1200.00) Hero has J Q
the table was very tight at this point with the excpetion of UTG who already folded and The BB who is a 40/10 and seems very capable.
So I know this is a pretty loose open, feel free to comment on that, but my plan was to call shorty if shoved and fold to a 3Bet. Reevaluate flop.
fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 1,086.00[/color], fold, fold, LP calls 1,086.00, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 586.00
Flop: (3958.00, 3 players) 9 J 3
BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 1,979.00[/color], LP calls 1,979.00, fold
Turn: (7916.00, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, LP checks
So After a flat OTF from this player who although was loose passive PF had shown aggression most of the time post flop, My read was that he was very much weighted towards draws. OTT was ready to just give up and try to grind my 12 BBs stack up, But he checked behind me
River: (7916.00, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, [color=red]LP bets 18,682.00 and is all-in[/color], Hero??
After his check I felt very strongly that he was drawing still, so on this River is this a call or a fold??
(yes not my best played hand by the way I realize that, that is why I'm posting 
)
weird…fd and open ended got there but its not like you have any attention of calling after chk turn and river. if the draws missed and a player does this, im usually snapping….but its the reverse here plus if had something weak he wud have bluffed the turn imo. if he decided to chk back turn with a small piece like 97 or T9 then why turn a hand with showdown value into a bluff? so with that said, i click the fold btn cuz i dont see what we beat besides a stone cold bluff.
Merge – $4+$0.40|<> NL – Holdem – $3,000K Guaranteed players Rebuys and add ons.
After the rebuy period
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (UTG+1): 9,775.00 (20 BBs)
MP: 3,926.00
MP+1: 13,112.00
LP: 21,797.00 (43 BBs)
CO: 17,040.00
BTN: 19,442.00
SB: 21,444.00
BB: 21,791.00 (43 BBs)
UTG: 12,315.00
Hero posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, MP+1 posts ante 50.00, LP posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 250.00, BB posts BB 500.00
Pre Flop: (1200.00) Hero has J Q
the table was very tight at this point with the excpetion of UTG who already folded and The BB who is a 40/10 and seems very capable.
So I know this is a pretty loose open, feel free to comment on that, but my plan was to call shorty if shoved and fold to a 3Bet. Reevaluate flop.
fold, [color=red]Hero raises to 1,086.00[/color], fold, fold, LP calls 1,086.00, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 586.00
Flop: (3958.00, 3 players) 9 J 3
BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 1,979.00[/color], LP calls 1,979.00, fold
Turn: (7916.00, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, LP checks
So After a flat OTF from this player who although was loose passive PF had shown aggression most of the time post flop, My read was that he was very much weighted towards draws. OTT was ready to just give up and try to grind my 12 BBs stack up, But he checked behind me
River: (7916.00, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, [color=red]LP bets 18,682.00 and is all-in[/color], Hero Called
Villain showed KQ
result:
My feeling after his turn check was that he would have bet any hands that beat me except for flushes, and I felt he would raise his draws on the flop most of the time. I still felt QT and T7 were possible but compared to all the otehr combos he could have (one hands, second pairs and pure bluffs) and for the price now I decide to go with it. We tend to always post hands were we played fine but lost, I thought it would be interesting to post one where I feel I played bad (until the river aty least) but turned out well in the end.
I'll take any last comments on the hand gladly
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