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888 Poker – $4.50+$0.50|400/800 Ante 100 NL – Holdem – 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 7.26 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 11)
MP+2: 5.09 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 11)
CO: 15.24 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 11)
BTN: 60.67 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 7)
SB: 25.09 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
BB: 65.94 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 11)
UTG: 23.36 BB
Hero (UTG+1): 21.64 BB
MP: 22.29 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 11)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has  Q
heart
 Q
club
fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (7.63 BB, 3 players)  3
spade
 J
spade
 6
spade
BB checks, Hero bets 3.63 BB, MP+1 raises to 5.14 BB, BB raises to 63.81 BB,
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didn't want to min raise, generally i'll raise 2.1-2.2BB, but it was running out of time, and 888poker does not allow to change last 2 digits, you have to delete all and type the full amount, hence click min raise to avoid time out.

 

flop, betting and get ready to call MP+1 if raised since he/she is short, i should have bet 2.5BB so if raised by MP+1 and called by BB, I can shove over.  But I accidentally bet bigger than I should.  MP+1 shove and BB (the big stack) shove over MP+1.  Action on me.

 

MP+1 range can be ignored here, because even we are losing against him, if we can be ahead of BB range here, we can win bigger side pot.  BB is pretty decent in a way, that he open pot aggressively, call in position, iso-raise and etc.  I didn't manage to notice how he played post flop.  What is your range in BB if you are BB, and perceive me (hero in this case) to be standard TAG.

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I think you are ahead right now, villains range is very wide because of his chip stack and because he was in BB which is scary but I highly doubt he would be shoving any flush here unless he has a very low flush and floated with a hand like 4s2s.

My best guess is he hit a pair and has a high spade. KJ, AJ, A3, A6 is what I put him on

Seeing you only have 16 BB left I think this is a call and a good chance to double up, just gotta sweat a lot of outs on turn and river.

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Pocket 3s or 6s definitely in his range too, that would suck.

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thanks for replying.  

not sure why the hands format became messy, and i failed to edit to show up nicely.cool

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i probably check and re evaluate the flop. MP1 is most likely gonna shove and then depending on BB i act.

 

the line you took i think we are not in the best shape.

 

or what range do you assign BB?

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A made flush. MAYBE AJ with the A of spades.

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joelshitshow said:

A made flush. MAYBE AJ with the A of spades.

then its an easy fold

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florianm1 said:

i probably check and re evaluate the flop. MP1 is most likely gonna shove and then depending on BB i act.

 

the line you took i think we are not in the best shape.

 

or what range do you assign BB?

check and re-evaluate the flop is a good alternative line too.
against readless opponnet, i would assign at least 2pair+, and 50% weighted with one card A/K flush draw or 1 pair+ small flush draw.  I think it would be a fold.
against this particular BB, i think his range maybe wider
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It's not that often your opponents will flop a flush or a set. There is still a lot of hands you have decent equity against, you also could be ahead of hands like Jx

 

Thought's on just shoving flop?

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The general rule TPE has taught me is not to do what's easiest. But the counterpoint to that is whether I'm good enough to deal with the results, if I don't do what's easiest.

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we are in a low SPR with an overpair  (which is rather strong) even on a really wet flop , bb calling range is going to be so wide here as well. i think if we were going to c/f this hand here we will be making a negative expectation. yeah sometimes we may lose against a flopped flush or a weird two pair type of hand but that don't happen that often. Even vs hands like Jh:As we still have decent equity , pretty much flipping which we should not mind at all.

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