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Overpair facing river bet
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September 12, 2010 - 7:14 pm
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It's a rush tournament so I have no reads on villian.  Call or fold?  And no I haven't watched the video on top pair and overpairs yet lol.

 

Full Tilt Poker $32,000 Rush Guar (Rebuy) No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t170/t340 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

kronk73 (BTN): BB = 78.9, t26841
slowTAOn (SB): BB = 80.8, t27462
derry11 (BB): BB = 113.4, t38572
IvanLaverde (UTG): BB = 42.2, t14342
396LT1 (UTG+1): BB = 44.5, t15115
Bolye Drunson (UTG+2): BB = 21.9, t7430
sayFOLDplz (MP1): BB = 286.2, t97300
aggressie (MP2): BB = 16.3, t5546
BlueyEyes7 (CO): BB = 46.3, t15750

Pre Flop: (t735) slowTAOn is SB with A of hearts A of clubs
2 folds, Bolye Drunson calls t340, 4 folds, slowTAOn raises to t880, derry11 calls t540, Bolye Drunson calls t540

Flop: (t2865) T of clubs J of hearts 2 of spades (3 players)
slowTAOn bets t1565, derry11 calls t1565, Bolye Drunson calls t1565

Turn: (t7560) K of clubs (3 players)
slowTAOn bets t3580, derry11 calls t3580, Bolye Drunson folds

River: (t14720) 6 of diamonds (2 players)
slowTAOn checks, derry11 bets t8840

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September 12, 2010 - 7:39 pm
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Boyle only has 22bb stack so I probably would have made the preflop raise larger, probably about 3.5x the bb in the hope I could get him or someone else to push.  I think the smaller raise is asking for other cold callers including the limper.  When your flop bet is called and the K falls I probably check here for pot control and hope I can check it down for a showdown.  The board has a ton of draws and two pair hands that could be in his range and don't think he is folding to a bet here with anything reasonable.  As played I would fold the river and move to the next hand with 60+bb still in your stack.

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September 13, 2010 - 12:40 am
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I would check the turn.  There's so many scary cards out there, and we can get some information based on what the players behind us do. 

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September 13, 2010 - 11:18 am
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Wein is your plan to check call turn??? because the board is getting draw heavy and once we check we are showing weakness which opens the door for someone else to bet a worse hand or a draw they just picked up on the turn.  Obviously if there is a bet and raise in front of us we could fold on the turn but if there is a bet and fold or bet/call in front are we giving up on a board like this with so many possiblities out there.

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September 13, 2010 - 11:38 am
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He's going to check back the turn a lot. If he made a hand he won't want to scare us off. If he has something with showdown value like AJ or even KQ he's probably checking here a lot.

Also, checking here prevents us from getting raised if he has 2 pair or better. We want to pot control the hell out of this when a ton of river cards will be bad for us.

The pre-flop raise has to be much, much bigger here. You're simply giving people infinite implied odds to crush you post-flop.

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September 13, 2010 - 12:12 pm
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I dont hate checking the turn but I dont totally love it either. If he does check back then we are OOP on the river and should be betting for value depending on what the river is or we could check call if a draw gets completed and he doesnt blow us out of the pot. It just becomes gross when he then bets turn and we call and then the river blanks and we check and he bets big.  I think when we check turn we turn our hand face up and a capable player can exploit this.

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