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Full Tilt Poker $35,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t20/t40 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
DeerTaaY (MP2): t3725 93.12 BBs
Hypnopod (CO): t3065 76.62 BBs
mikehawk80 (BTN): t1985 49.62 BBs
japbuenopkr (SB): t2205 55.12 BBs
sccards (BB): t2890 72.25 BBs
RockBottomed (UTG): t5925 148.12 BBs
Cinch51 (UTG+1): t3075 76.88 BBs
calamaro1 (UTG+2): t4805 120.12 BBs
greek4 (MP1): t2510 62.75 BBs
Pre Flop: (t60) Hypnopod is CO with A
K
2 folds, calamaro1 raises to t140, 2 folds, Hypnopod calls t140, 3 folds
Flop: (t340) J 6
K (2 players)
calamaro1 bets t400, Hypnopod calls t400
Turn: (t1140) 7 (2 players)
calamaro1 checks, Hypnopod bets t650, calamaro1 calls t650
River: (t2440) Q (2 players)
calamaro1 bets t3615 all in, Hypnopod requests TIME, Hypnopod folds
Final Pot: t2440
calamaro1 wins t2440
I'm not sure if I misplayed the crap out of this hand or not but this is my thinking. No info on villain, just moved to table.
The big c-bet on the flop had me thinking he must have QQ or TT or something along those lines. I can't see him betting AK or a set that way at all. The check-call on the turn further confirmed my initial read. But the shove on the river really confused me. The way I played the hand I think was pretty much face up so did he know put me on AK and took advantage of the flush board to shove me off?
July 3, 2010
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I don't think you can ever flat the flop here. I look to just get it in especially since you just flatted AK pre so hand strength is a bit disguised.
If he happened to bet a flopped two pair or bottom set this way then so be it but can't imagine a set overbetting the flop here.
Seems like he could have KQ or AK. Maybe JQ, too. So I guess as played I fold the river since we might just be calling hoping for a chop.
First thought after seeing hand as played – your turn bet size gives villian opportunity to correctly call almost always – plus not giving u any added info to narrow his range.
June 11, 2010
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Those chincy bets tend to read to me like a draw that doesn't want to give up so he is going to try to blow you off the hand. If he has a set here then gg, but I would most likely re-raise him huge here since your hand strength is a serious mystery based on preflop play. If he decides to play the draw incorrectly then good for you. I don't hate folding the river, there are a bunch of draws that got there and you could be screwed. A lot of the characteristic of a hand can be defined on the flop, if it is draw heavy board and you connect strongly then make it a mistake for them to call and keep playing, it will be more profitable in the long run.
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March 17, 2010
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mmfitter said:
First thought after seeing hand as played – your turn bet size gives villian opportunity to correctly call almost always – plus not giving u any added info to narrow his range.
+1
Thanks everyone for your replies. The consensus seems to be that my turn bet was too weak. But aren't we trying to get value out of the hand when we're pretty sure we are ahead? If I bet 70-80% pot there don't I scare him off too often? Or is the point that the board was too draw heavy by then and I should have been trying to take it down right there?
Agree with the above but I repop pre with AK and I think the entire hand then plays out differently… plus we are in position we then have control of the hand decided the betting post flop.
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March 17, 2010
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pk2010 said:
Thanks everyone for your replies. The consensus seems to be that my turn bet was too weak. But aren't we trying to get value out of the hand when we're pretty sure we are ahead? If I bet 70-80% pot there don't I scare him off too often? Or is the point that the board was too draw heavy by then and I should have been trying to take it down right there?
You're trying to get value by charging him a price that make a call with his range unprofitable. Given all the draws out there you are not charging enough, which reduces your equity. When he calls here given the right odds, he's not making a mistake. Make him pay too much so that your move is profitable over the long run.
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