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out of position and out of ideas
TheClubber
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June 2, 2015 - 1:21 pm
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Live $300 buy in.

Villain is table captain. He has easily 200K chips and has only shown down twp hands in the hour since I got moved to the table. He knocked out one shorter stack QQ vs JJ and he called from the SB with A6s then check called overbet shove with nut flush draw.  He's active but doesn't seem recklessly so. He's probably playing about 20-25% of hands.

The first two orbits at the table I was fairly active but since then have calmed down and my stack is shrinking. I am down to 18 BB (54K) and was looking mostly for spots to 3-bet shove. 

Blinds 400/1500/3000. 

Hero has 99 UTG+1. I raise to 7K. villain calls on the button and the blinds fold.

Flop (22.5K) K22r. 

a) What's your plan?

I feel like I am often ahead here and should c-bet, but if villain flats I am down to 12 BB OOP, with 1 PSB behind and no clue if I'm ahead.

b) With this stack size am I better off open shipping since so many hands are going to be awkward OOP?

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Since you are UTG+1 and blinds are going to pass you soon pushing you down to ~13-14 BB after they pass you (assuming you don't get a good hand the next 3-4 times), why don't you consider shoving? I think you are ahead of most of villain's calling range in position. Only hands you are behind are 1010+ and AK, KQ, KJ. I think if villain had JJ+, AKs and may be a few AQs, he is going to 3-bet you preflop. So, his smooth call preflop makes me think he is set fishing or AQ/AJ kind of a hand where he wants to flop big and knock you out. He could also be calling you light since he has you well-covered and you might be afraid of his stack. I think 99 here is ahead of his range, so, shove and hope for the best?

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June 2, 2015 - 2:09 pm
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This is an awkward stack size to play, especially out of position once called preflop. Firstly you need to put him on a range before doing anything. Then consider you're own range. The problem with betting is that he can float and reassess when you check twice. The problem with betting twice is that we don't get called by worse. It's a tough one. 

 

His range is very broadway heavy imo. I doubt he's flatting pre with 22-55, 67s, 89s types versus your short stack. The issue with check calling is that we're not in great shape if a T, J, Q, K, A hits the turn or river. I also think he would raise AQo+, AJs, TT+ a lot. 

 

One thing I like preflop is potentially having a limp-calling range and limp-shoving range pre. I've been experimenting with that recently with 15-21bb from EP. 99 would be in the limp-shoving range

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Shoving seems bad to me.  The hands that you're ahead of are drawing pretty slim (either 3 or 6 outs) and you want them to call, so if you decide you're committed to the hand you would be better to just make a normal cbet.  If you think he's the kind of player that floats a lot that's fine, let him float – you can then decide whether to fire again on the turn or to check to induce a bluff.  Just shoving and hoping folds out the hands you want to call and gets called by the hands you don't want to call.  The exception might be smaller pairs, 33-88, but a bet, check, bet line can get their chips in the pot just as easily with the stacks as they are.

 

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Looks like a WA/WB. Shoving is def terrible, will only get called by better, and I dont like a cbet much either. Checking and going from there seems best.

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I'd cbet about 9k because the board is paired and then shut it down if he calls, unless you see him call flop bets so often that you think he's floating a lot of the time. In that case, what about check/calling the flop or delayed c-betting the turn if it goes check/check on the flop?

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