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OOP flop OESD w overs...
lapp3r30
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August 8, 2013 - 11:38 pm
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So this hand is relatively early in the tournie.  I believe it was the Big $2 on Stars… Stacks 20bbs effective.  Very few hands on villains…

 

I'm confused in every way… Should I raise the original 150 flop bet?  Should I have shoved over the UTG1 600 flop reraise?  Should I have folded (Not this, I hope!)? Should I have open shoved turn?  

 

Geezus… What a mess… Thanks in advance guys!

 

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t/t Blinds – 9 players – View hand 2278196
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t21727 1 BBs – VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 18, AF: 5.0, Hands: 30
SB: t7654 1 BBs – VPIP: 30, PFR: 3, 3B: 13, AF: 3.0, Hands: 30
Hero (BB): t2921 1 BBs – VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 49330
UTG: t2520 1 BBs – VPIP: 10, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 10
UTG+1: t3000 1 BBs – VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 3
UTG+2: t4609 1 BBs – VPIP: 44, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 16
MP1: t5158 1 BBs – VPIP: 13, PFR: 13, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
MP2: t4140 1 BBs – VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 39
CO: t2615 1 BBs – VPIP: 49, PFR: 18, 3B: 13, AF: 3.7, Hands: 91

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BB with K of hearts Q of clubs
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t0, UTG+2 calls t0, 4 folds, SB calls t0, Hero checks

Flop: J of spades 4 of clubs T of hearts (4 players)
SB bets t150, Hero calls t150, UTG+1 raises to t600, UTG+2 calls t600, SB folds, Hero calls t450

Turn: (t1950) 7 of hearts (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t750, UTG+2 calls t750

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August 8, 2013 - 11:58 pm
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if the bb is 150, shove pre flop.

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Just wondering why you played it so passively pre. Big suited connectors, from the big blind. At very least you'll narrow the field and narrow their range. Ontop of that, by checking pre, you leave yourself open to sticky spots later on by being oop without the betting lead. Flopping the oesd with overs is basically the sort of position you're expecting to get into. If the flop had come AKx or AQx, you'd have been in exactly the same spot. 

 

By defining your hand early, you can avoid these sorts of positions and use a simple c-bet on the flop to take down the pot.

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if the bb is 150, shove pre flop.

Didn’t put this as an option, however I meant to, but 20bbs I think its pretty auto isn’t it?

And Junior83 you’re completely right.

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I agree with above, shoving pre is great considered their HUD stats.  KQ is good against their ranges, and you remove having to play OOP post.

 

As played, I call the 150, as you are getting good pot odds in case there is no further action, and I think you are more likely to get other players to come along, which is good for your hand.  I then shove over the 600 as you maximize fold equity and have very strong drawing equity against any ranges they could have.  

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markconkle said:

I agree with above, shoving pre is great considered their HUD stats.  KQ is good against their ranges, and you remove having to play OOP post.

 

As played, I call the 150, as you are getting good pot odds in case there is no further action, and I think you are more likely to get other players to come along, which is good for your hand.  I then shove over the 600 as you maximize fold equity and have very strong drawing equity against any ranges they could have.  

What sort of ranges are you putting villains on??? Just for conversation sake…

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