Some context, I am chip leader with 5 left at this FT with $220 for first, and $45 for 5th with payouts climbing steeply from 3rd to 1st. Since gaining the chiplead I have been chipping up nicely, with a couple of weak spots at the table including the main villain in this hand.
PokerStars Hand #173930720170: Tournament #1988417407, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XV (1000/2000) – 2017/08/05 1:07:53 WET [2017/08/04 20:07:53 ET]
Table ‘1988417407 11’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mikolajm2222 (69820 in chips)
Seat 2: Roberto#1do (35904 in chips)
Seat 4: amerv31 (34374 in chips)
Seat 6: ScotLib (79028 in chips)
Seat 7: JustaJob420 (50874 in chips)
mikolajm2222: posts the ante 200
Roberto#1do: posts the ante 200
amerv31: posts the ante 200
ScotLib: posts the ante 200
JustaJob420: posts the ante 200
amerv31: posts small blind 1000
ScotLib: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScotLib [8s Qs]
JustaJob420: folds
mikolajm2222: raises 2000 to 4000
Roberto#1do: calls 4000
amerv31: folds
ScotLib: calls 2000
*** FLOP *** [2s 6s 7s]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 4000
Roberto#1do: raises 6000 to 10000
ScotLib: calls 10000
mikolajm2222: calls 6000
*** TURN *** [2s 6s 7s] [9s]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 10000
Roberto#1do: folds
ScotLib: calls 10000
*** RIVER *** [2s 6s 7s 9s] [Td]
ScotLib: checks
mikolajm2222: bets 45620 and is all-in
ScotLib: calls 45620
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikolajm2222: shows [Th As] (a flush, Ace high)
ScotLib: shows [8s Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
mikolajm2222 collected 155240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 155240 | Rake 0
Board [2s 6s 7s 9s Td]
Seat 1: mikolajm2222 showed [Th As] and won (155240) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Roberto#1do (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: amerv31 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ScotLib (big blind) showed [8s Qs] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 7: JustaJob420 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Pre I don’t think there’s any cause to do anything else with a suited hand and good pot odds and a weak player in the hand.
On the flop I think my decision is pretty flawed, I was influenced by the fact that miko had regularly bet flop and turn big with air, but after the 3rd player in the hand re-raises I think I should re-raise, as even flat calling does little to disguise the strength of my hand, and let’s anyone with the As see a turn for the correct price.
Once I’ve taken the line I have I think I have to call turn with the combined equity of the Q high flush and the open ended straight flush draw giving me a couple outs.
River I’m pretty sure is atrocious, at this point in the hand I really struggle to see anything he’s shoving for value on this board that I beat, and I think I let my read of him as a weak player sway me into making far to loose a call.
What’s everyone’s thoughts?
February 8, 2017
I prefer shipping it in on the flop but calling is a decent line to take, especially if you expect villains will barrel naked A on the turn. Although shoving over the check-raise looks really strong, I think we are getting called by enough sets, 67s, and pairs w/ a big , and Roberto may feel pot committed with weaker hands.
It’s horribly wrong vs properly balanced villains, but I think we can consider exploitatively folding turn here, as crazy as that sounds. Hard for villain to bet anything other than A into 2 players that have shown so much interest in a monotone flop. 2 outs to the immortal nuts is nice but hardly enough to justify a call if villain’s range is as nutted as I suspect. Given sizing I think we can peel, but its probably closer than it seems.
River I think we need to be folding (but I hardly think the call is ‘atrocious’). If the pot had been heads up by the turn, I think villain’s range might include enough bluffs to make it close, but I just don’t see enough people bluffing 4-flush boards multi-way to like our chances.
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August 25, 2012
theginger45 said
I think I like your line. ICM dictates it’s pretty tough for you to bluff-catch wider here, villain has to be bluffing way more often than cEV would usually dictate.I also like jam flop as well, incidentally. I do think you get stacks in against Roberto fairly often.
I just realized you called river and not folded, haha. I definitely don’t like all of your line, in that case.
I also agree with DDD that there’s a case for folding turn. Many villains will have very little in their call flop-bet turn range that doesn’t include the Ks or As.
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