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Nut Flush Draw...
xTrav
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May 29, 2010 - 11:22 am
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I would like some feedback on how to play nut flush draws. I think I messed up but I don’t know.

 

I was in middle position with AQ clubs. I raised and got 1 caller from the BB. We are both pretty deep stacked with about 100 BB’s each. Flop is great with all low cards and 2 clubs. BB insta checks back to me. Pot is like 3200 so I c-bet about 2145. The BB that just checked it to me now 3 bets to 7800. What should I do? Call off almost 6k more chips to try and hit flush? Should I 4 bet? 4 bet shove? Or do I fold? What is the best play?

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May 29, 2010 - 12:10 pm
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it would be nice if you gave the actaul stack sizes in order to better talk about sizing, but with what you did give it seems that the blinds are ~250/500 a50 and you both have ~50k?

 

this is a type of board that people love to checkraise, and i think that 3betting the flop is best (you’d be 3betting not 4betting. your bet is 1 bet, his checkraise is the 2nd bet), as we have a lot of equity now with 2 overs+NFD but if we call and a blank hits our equity is much worse and depending on his bet-size we might have to fold which is a disaster.

 

we definitely have enough equity to make it ~20k and call a shove, which is what i would do.

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May 29, 2010 - 12:38 pm
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Thats what I did and lost. He had trips. Of course I missed my flush draw. Yes blinds were 500 and we had 50kish. My question is…are there points when you are just too deep to put it all on the line just on a draw? Yes I had 2 overcards plus a flush draw but what if hitting one of my 2 overs still does not put me ahead? In this case it did not and I think that the writing was on the wall when he check-raised me big. I think it was a fold. But my main question is how do you play draws? I usually always lead out on flush or straight draws and it always seems to get me in trouble and I usually donk off half my stack or get stacked. Im thinking that is a huge leak in my game and I want to just fix it. Now technically I suppose its +EV to play those nut flush draws very aggressively and yada yada…but if I am getting stacked everytime then whats the point? Something is wrong.

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May 29, 2010 - 11:21 pm
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a lot of the times if you’re playing aggressively and cbetting a lot of flops people will checkraise you light instead of with the set, and then you can reraise them back, and this hand is a favorite against any 1 pair type hand but if he has a set everytime here then obviously you dont want to get it in on the flop

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