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Not so tough spot early (pre-antes), but I'm always confused ATs vs 10BB shove - seems simple, right?
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November 28, 2010 - 4:04 pm
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I really struggle with hands like this where you raise and then get shoved on by a 10-15BB stack. Before the hand I thought ok I'm going to call the BB if he shoves and fold to the BTN and SB. But, I feel that my thinking isn't quite right. If there are antes then I can understand definitely raise calling vs all the stacks (bar the CO) behind me. But pre-antes I'm completely lost.

 

I plugged my guestimated range for BB (22+,AJ+,KQ) into PokerStove after the hand and found I had 39.3% equity so considering I only need 37.6% my call was a good one. Is the range I've put in here okay? If he's a competent player he's probably folding 22-55 since he knows he has no FE with his 10BB stack so against that range I'm 35.552% making this a fold. Am I wrong to think this?

 

What do you think? Would your thinking be raise and get it in against the BTN, SB and BB?

 

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

BTN: t1270 12.70 BBs
SB: t1585 15.85 BBs
BB: t1085 10.85 BBs
UTG: t2604 26.04 BBs
UTG+1: t2621 26.21 BBs
MP1: t1827 18.27 BBs
Hero (MP2): t4820 48.20 BBs
CO: t2069 20.69 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP2 with A of hearts T of hearts
3 folds, Hero raises to t250, 3 folds, BB raises to t1085 all in, Hero ???

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November 28, 2010 - 4:55 pm
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If your raising A10s from mp2 then you must

all shoves from any 10-15 bb stacks.

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   He is probably making a desperation shove and most players widen their range when down to 10-15BB. ATs is a solid hand against a short stack shove from the BB. The picture above is worth a thousand words. Call it! 

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November 28, 2010 - 11:12 pm
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If you called off then well played ignore results.

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Thanks for the replies. Do you guys ever fold to BTN or SB shoves? And are most of you saying that my estimated range for the BB shoving is much too tight?

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with 48BB I am not folding to a btn or sb shove just treat it like all the others.

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