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MultiFifty on FT: Size matters

Gareth Chantler

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April 23, 2013 - 5:49 pm

Total unknown villain, first hand at a new table. Better line? Better flop/turn size?

Full Tilt Poker The Multi-Fifty No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t60/t120 Blinds – 9 players – View hand 2186534
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

MP2: t10464 87.20 BBs
CO: t2840 23.67 BBs
BTN: t2740 22.83 BBs
SB: t5498 45.82 BBs
BB: t3000 25 BBs
UTG: t2700 22.50 BBs
UTG+1: t8977 74.81 BBs
UTG+2: t4222 35.18 BBs
GarethChantler (MP1): t3640 30.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t180) GarethChantler is MP1 with T of hearts T of spades
3 folds, GarethChantler raises to t240, 2 folds, BTN calls t240, 2 folds

Flop: (t660) 8 of diamonds T Q of spades (2 players)
GarethChantler bets t420, BTN calls t420

Turn: (t1500) Q of hearts (2 players)
GarethChantler bets t525

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April 23, 2013 - 9:35 pm

Don’t know that it could be played better readless. Like the sizing on both streets.

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April 24, 2013 - 4:14 am

Checking turn also seems ok since it allows villain to bluff IP. Not sure we get 3 streets from anything aside from Qx which we're sorta repping by betting again.

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April 24, 2013 - 10:09 am

i like betting big on flop as he calls with most of his draws no matter what sizing we have and he has draws and combo draws a lot in his range.

turn i prefer a check. this allows him to take a free card and hit his draw or allows him to bluff.

if he checks back turn i like to shove any river.

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April 25, 2013 - 9:18 am

FkCoolers said:

Checking turn also seems ok since it allows villain to bluff IP. Not sure we get 3 streets from anything aside from Qx which we're sorta repping by betting again.

I was thinking this too, but I think Gareth's line is best against loose-passive players. If they're going to call or take a free card with a draw, we'd rather they called. Against more aggro players, it's better to give them room to bluff. I'm not 100% sure what to expect from an unknown in a $50 multientry, maybe check his location, but I think I'd err towards optimizing vs loose/passive.

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April 25, 2013 - 1:19 pm

I don't see what you can learn from this hand.. Isin't this just a simple 3 streets of value? And also Gareth have you ditched Zoom poker and gone back to MTTs? Haven't seen you post a video on CR for a while now.

Gareth Chantler

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April 25, 2013 - 3:22 pm

Lots to learn. Just trying to look at an “easy” spot and see if there is room for improvement.

I'm still playing Zoom everyday. If you want to let the powers that be at CR know you'd like to see more of my stuff I won't stop you ;).

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April 25, 2013 - 3:45 pm

Gareth Chantler said:

Lots to learn. Just trying to look at an “easy” spot and see if there is room for improvement.

I'm still playing Zoom everyday. If you want to let the powers that be at CR know you'd like to see more of my stuff I won't stop you ;).

I know this is a complete tangent to this thread but im sure myself and many others there would like to see more contnet. I love your anlytical approch to the game and the way you explain reasoning behind your plays.

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April 27, 2013 - 4:11 pm

Foucault said:

FkCoolers said:

Checking turn also seems ok since it allows villain to bluff IP. Not sure we get 3 streets from anything aside from Qx which we're sorta repping by betting again.

I was thinking this too, but I think Gareth's line is best against loose-passive players. If they're going to call or take a free card with a draw, we'd rather they called. Against more aggro players, it's better to give them room to bluff. I'm not 100% sure what to expect from an unknown in a $50 multientry, maybe check his location, but I think I'd err towards optimizing vs loose/passive.

Good call on the location check and letting it help to decide the line to take. I miss being on sites where all 8 villains don't always say “United States”.

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