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missed 3 bet shove spot?

BuddhaX

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March 29, 2011 - 10:33 am

i think i missed 3 bet shove here, even though the villian actually has a a hand in this spot. i think the correct play would be shoving instead of flatting or raising 2-3x

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

AndRedGanz (UTG): BB = 34.7, t138854
buhles (UTG+1): BB = 12.9, t51742
geodetico (UTG+2): BB = 7.7, t30651
Jonny White1 (MP1): BB = 9.1, t36401
Dave_JD90 (MP2): BB = 10.6, t42262
stebaird (CO): BB = 7.2, t28961
LV_ZVEZDA (BTN): BB = 22.9, t91533
SetzerMason (SB): BB = 11.3, t45141
Hero (BB): BB = 25.1, t100298

Pre Flop: (t9600) Hero is BB with A of diamonds T
4 folds, Dave_JD90 raises to t12000, 3 folds, Hero calls t8000

Flop: (t29600) 5 of hearts Q of clubs T (2 players)
Hero bets t8000, Dave_JD90 raises to t29862 all in, Hero calls t21862

Turn: (t89324) 8 of diamonds (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t89324) A of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

BuddhaX

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March 29, 2011 - 10:41 am

Sorry guys just saw there was a tutorial on posting Hand Histories REDO!

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March 29, 2011 - 6:09 pm

i would be pretty wary of someone opening with a 10bb stack instead of just shoving.

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March 29, 2011 - 6:35 pm

I see exactly what you mean. He wouldnt risk betting that at 10BB unless he actually had a hand.

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March 29, 2011 - 7:29 pm

Yeah, when he opens ( especially for 3x) with only 10bb total, he isn’t ever folding to a shove. So the question you need to ask yourself is – do you want to gamble 10bb of your stack against his opening range here.

Even if you ignore the fact he didn’t open shove and only 3x it, which looks like he’s not afraid of action. Your stack is only 25bb wich still gives you room to open/fold, steal and 3bet shove with good FE. if you lose it’ll be down to under 15 and only leaves you with one play – open shove (perhaps 3bet shove also).

Since your stack loses so much utility when you call and lose, I fold here. That’s ignoring his sizing/stack

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March 29, 2011 - 7:49 pm

Thanks appreciate the input. I felt like it was definitely the wrong play. I shouldve folded but panicked getting that short stacked and thought I could chip up with those cards. He was obviously strong and I missed the read.

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March 30, 2011 - 12:31 pm

Readless I try to OPR/Sharkscope the player. I fold to a winning player and shove vs a losing player/fish some times.

Fish have no clue about stack sizes and opening ranges.