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December 30, 2015
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No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$1.72+$5.10+$0.68
Blinds 90/180 9
UTG Hsl13 8,714
UTG+1 ALEX@163363 7,846
MP1 Opiat11 13,896
MP2 WARcraik101 4,722
MP3 Bodanus 3,897
CO Implied_Aces 8,551
D qrious86 6,569
SB Hero 4,981
BB artkrak1 5,431
9 513 Hero is SB J J
1 fold, ALEX@163363 calls 180, 1 fold, WARcraik101 raises to 430, Bodanus calls 430, 1 fold, qrious86 raises to 1,844, Hero ??? …
qrious86 wins 3,397 (net +1,526)
ALEX@163363 lost 207
WARcraik101 lost 457
Bodanus lost 457
December 30, 2015
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Same guy a little later…
No Limit Holdem Tournament PokerStars
9 Players
$1.72+$5.10+$0.68
Blinds 150/300 9
UTG artkrak1 20,990
UTG+1 rin2737 18,583
MP1 ALEX@163363 2,588
MP2 Opiat11 16,455
MP3 Forever2605 9,041
CO MindTrick27 3,230
D olo26 38,859
SB qrious86 7,964
BB Hero 13,513
9 900 Hero is BB K Q
artkrak1 raises to 600, 3 folds, Forever2605 calls 600, 1 fold, olo26 calls 600, qrious86 raises to 2,780, Hero folds, artkrak1 folds, Forever2605 folds, olo26 calls 2,180
2 7,510 Q 7 2
qrious86 bets 3,600, olo26 folds
qrious86 wins 11,110 (net +4,680)
olo26 lost 2,830
artkrak1 lost 650
Forever2605 lost 650
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December 6, 2012
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It’s telling that you’re not including the bounties here. It’s quite important information for considering ranges in these spots.
December 30, 2015
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I don’t recall thinking this was intended to iso. I read it as a squeeze in-game.
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December 6, 2012
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I know, that was my point.
December 30, 2015
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Any feedback on the first hand? I folded JJ in-game mostly because the button squeeze was a big 3-bet and I don’t know if JJ was strong enough for a 4-bet-shove in to 4 people (which feels more like a steal attempt than a value-shove). I didn’t know how much fold equity I can count on here and a call was likely to be a flip at best. I decided to try for a better spot since I had 26BB and not much of a read yet.
His 3-bet sizing is huge. If his goal was to isolate me and get me all in it was perfect sizing since I can’t imagine re-raising without shoving, especially out-of-position with others behind. Since I’m removing an iso from his thinking, I’m left with a mental coin flip to decide if he is squeezing light or not. Without a read I don’t know if I can assign any ranges to his bet sizing. I don’t know if he would raise less with AA or KK and more with AK, QQ or TT for example.
Looking at the price, I’m paying 4,900 to win ~6,400 (11,300 pot), if V is the only caller to my shove, right?
Looking at the situation from V’s perspective (for fold equity), I still don’t know if I would have hated a re-steal attempt. The size of my shove would have created a lot of pressure and V might give it more respect because I’m shoving into 2 others. If he does call I may still be ahead.
I really should plug this into the equation you (Andrew) dropped into another post but I have to run out the door in 5 min. Plus, I’m not confident that I can boil down my last point above into a section of an EV solution.
Any thoughts?
June 2, 2013
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on the first hand, I don´t think you have any fold equity to 4bet there, since that is like 3k more for the V who sqz…
you have to look at the bounty here, as Foucalt said, cause that might make V gamble a little bit more in this spot, and sometimes you will find yourself dominated hoping for two outs 
it is close to me, QQ i probably 4bet shove.
February 5, 2016
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The JJ hand villains sizing looks weak to me without having any info on dynamics with him. I don’t see this sizing as being AA, KK, QQ, AK, or AQ. Personally, I feel JJ is prob ahead and ahead by quit a bit. I feel his sizing says he doesn’t want action with 88-1010 maybe AJ. How has he been playing against some people I love this spot and am never folding gladly getting it in pre, others I fold without thinking twice. Any history with this villain?
December 30, 2015
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Oops, sorry. Forgot to mention that important bit. No history yet. Recent table change. I posted while playing and the second hand was posted in real-time a little later. I wish there had been a caller in either hand to offer a clue.
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