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micro/low stakes mindset
thaWONthaOWNLEE
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October 1, 2013 - 9:32 pm
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My style of play is very snug. Something like a 13/11/4 style. I do this because at the micro stakes most people have no clue how to play tournament poker. People call three streets of value with underpairs, gutshots, and ace high. This makes bluffing difficult. If one c-bet does get a player to fold, most of the time they are too stubborn to fold to a second one.
I also I’m having trouble with limpers. I will be on the btn with KJo and there will be 2 limpers in the pot. I’ll make a large (3xish) iso raise. Then the sb and bb will call, as well as the limpers. Now i’m in a bloated pot with 4 other people. The flop might come out dry. But the players are so bad they will call my c-bet with all kinds of junk.

Against good regs or people who I know can read hands better, I tend to mix it up, but in a 11 dollar tourney with 3000 players, there are stubborn way more fish than solid regs.

I was to expand my game and play more that the to 15%, but what’s the point if players are so bad that you can almost always stack them when I have the effective nuts.

I’ve had some success, being able to make deepish runs in large field tournaments with this snug style. Once the money hits I open to more up my game to more of a 20/18/5 (which is kinda laggy for a full ring table).

do I have the right mind set?

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Do you use a HUD for all your sessions? Fish come in many forms. Not all of them are calling stations so it's really critical to learn how to exploit each type of unbalanced player.

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yes i use PT4, and I'm aware that there are many different types of fish. The the most common type I have found in the under 10 dollar buy tournaments on the merge netwrok are people who just don't know where their fold button is. Some fish only raise with the nuts, some make horrible bluffs that are so transparent a blind man could see through them, some fish call shoves waaaay to light, and some call waaaaay too tight. But the largest type of fish imo is the type that just never folds if they have anything piece of the board and loves to play hands like J3o oop to a pf raise. My thinking is,  if they never fold, why play speculative hands like 76s or Q9o against these guys if you know that if you do pick up a really good hand, u can stack them when you are good and won't put in another chip when you are bad. I mean, if a loose passive player raises you and u don't have the effective nuts, get out. right?

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the only way to beat calling station is by making large raises

 

preflop instead of 3x go for 6-8x. they will still call. same on flop

make 2/3 to PSB for value. If there are FDs and OSDs out there you can even over ber and they still call

 

charge them as much as you can. forget about all the standard bet sizing “rules”

 

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Looking at your stats, you might be a tad too tight for tournaments.  Especialy the micros, which tend to not have as good a structure as the higher stakes MTTs.  I probably play the first few levels pretty tight, but I open up drastically in the middle and later stages.  Overall my online MTT stats tend to read something like 22/18/7 with a 2.0 agg factor.  wihle my stats may be simlar in the early stages, my middle game aggression picks up as I look for good spots, my stats start picking up as i go longer.

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I play mostly all micros and have had decent success in them.  I think that when playing them you just need to go back to table dynamics, flow, and utilize position.  I agree with the previous poster that mentioned when isolating and opening, do so bigger.  You will pick up chips and build your stack by doing so.  If you meet resistance post, just shut it down and wait for another spot.  You will find that one player that you want to play pots with, because you know you will evenutally get their chips.  If they are to your right, you can see more flops.  If they are to your left you need to tighten up and let them do the betting for you.

 

I also recomend which it is hard to do (because of what we are taught and seen) is not to always iso limpers in position.  I have tried to incorporate this in to my game early on in tourneys that I can see a flop cheaply in position and rely on my post flop play to pick up chips.  Perfect example is the hand you mentioned..kjo.  In some cases just over call and see a flop.  You have a hand that flops well and you won't get in to a lot of trouble post or waste chips when missing.  I also like to do this with suited connectors, small pairs, etc. 

 

Lastly, something I have to remind myself a lot is that you are going to have greater variance in the smaller buy in/large entry events.  In most cases, you will get it in good just to find yourself on the wrong end of it.  This is okay….remind yourself that you want these players to make the plays they are doing or you wouldn't have a profit. 

 

Best of luck at the tables!!

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