January 27, 2013
From trying to build a bankroll/learn how to play more tables i've decided to stick to grinding these .50 45 man turbos on stars. Most of the time i'm recognising my own mistakes but i'm struggling getting my head round paired boards. Unfortunately im on a mac and slice has decided to not work so can't sit and play with ranges.
Hand 1
Blinds-400/800
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T4,022)
MP – MP (T4,095)
CO – CO (T13,247)
BTN – Hero (T15,270)
SB – SB (T15,834)
BB – BB (T15,032)
Preflop: (T1,500, 6 players) Hero is BTN with 7♠ K♥
3 folds, Hero raises to T1,600, SB calls T1,200, 1 fold
Flop: T♠ 8♥ T♣ (T4,300, 2 players – Hero: T13,620, SB: T14,184)
SB checks, Hero checks
SB bets 2,400, Hero folds
So this hand was taken from the final table of one of these SnG's with 6 players left raising with a king here seems pretty standard people rarely 3bet/ play back at stealing attempts. SB's stats are VPiP 33 PFR 24 with these kind of stats should we be c-betting here? being a player that is a bit looser to have 10's and maybe even an 8 in hand is it just too weak checking here? I reckon against a tighter player c-betting is a better option but i just feel that with the bet he'll float and then a turn bets making this pot bigger than want but then again im not sure because would the c-bet be the place hero's going to take the pot?
Hand 2
Blinds-200/400
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T8,993)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (T6,615)
UTG+2 – UTG+2 (T7,955)
MP – MP (T11,100)
MP2 – MP2 (T3,975)
CO – CO (T17,540)
BTN – BTN (T3,030)
SB – Hero (T6,747)
BB – BB (T1,545)
Preflop: (T825, 9 players) Hero is SB with 7♣ A♥
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to T800, 4 folds, Hero calls T600, 1 fold
Flop: 7♥ 3♣ 3♦ (T2,225, 2 players – UTG+2: T7,130, Hero: T5,922)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets T1,200, Hero calls T1,200
Turn: 5♥ (T4,625, 2 players – UTG+2: T5,930, Hero: T4,722)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets T5,930 (all-in), Hero?
no stats on UTG+2 yet so read less
Think calling pre seems ok with 30 bigs, with this hand and we hit the board with the 7, i think no raise from the c-bet is fine here or would you raise? What kind of player would we raise against if any? i can't see a merit in raising on the flop.
Now the turns interesting with the over bet all in from villain, from these tournament this is never a bluff, but is our 7 good? I don't think so but are there certain types of villains that we would call? someone that we knows a huge nit and a big chance they have two overs?
Hand 3
Blinds-25/50
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T1,495)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (T1,370)
MP – Hero (T1,430)
MP2 – MP2 (T2,230)
CO – CO (T5,470)
BTN – BTN (T1,320)
SB – SB (T1,940)
BB – BB (T995)
Preflop: (T75, 8 players) Hero is MP with 9♦ A♦
2 folds, Hero raises to T125, 3 folds, SB calls T100, 1 fold
Flop: 5♣ 5♥ J♠ (T300, 2 players – SB: T1,815, Hero: T1,305)
SB bets T200, Hero raises to T430, SB calls T230
Turn: J♦ (T1,160, 2 players – SB: T1,385, Hero: T875)
SB bets T1,150
SB here over only 21 hand sample has been pretty tight, what are we making of his donk on the flop? raise ok? or just call to see if he's willing to barrel turns? think maybe the raise was too aggro see if he shits out on the turn be better? Even with a stronger hand its still two overs so how to do play 2 overs with paired boards? This is my main spot is with two overs when someone will float a c-bet etc.
First post so if anythings wrong with it just say! Also if anyone has any similar spots could be a good idea to get discussion going or suggestions for videos to help this would be great thanks!
August 31, 2013
Hi,
Hand 1: Raising pre is fine. I would probably Cbet 1/3 pot flop and 2 barrel turn (espcially on high cards). By 2 barreling we make him fold his floats, A high, small pairs, etc… If he calls turn, X/F river imo.
Hand 2: I don't like the call preflop, just fold (or shove). As you said, you have no information, he is raising in early, you are OOP, your hand is not very good and BB is going to shove a ton with his 4BB putting you in a bad spot. As played I will make things easier and shove flop, he is going to call w/ his big A, 66/55/44 and you don't really want to see a J/Q/K on the turn. As played I think you have to call for the times he is bluffing with AK or AQ or shoving something like KQhh, 89, 66, 44 but I think you will often face 88+. Just fold pre!
Hand 3: You can fold preflop I guess but raising is ok. I would fold flop, as you said he is pretty tight, there's no draw, he is betting 2/3 pot, he often has a J or 66 – TT and he is not folding that on your raise. As played fold turn (he probably had 66 – TT)
January 27, 2013
Hi thanks for the reply!
hand 1- totally agree that i should be c-betting 1/3 pot i played it too weak, think just with how unsure i've been getting with these board textures i'm just trying many different things but i agree here, but whats ur siizing for a turn bet? My guess would be a bit over 1/3 but under 1/2 to get floats away.
hand 2-yeah this hands pretty terrible tbh not a great example but posted for hitting the two pair. Folding pre seems a lot better than shoving i think as well. Putting myself into a tougn spot playing these hands/
hand 3- I think this will be one of my leaks is playing these suited A's all the time, even then i would be definitely raising ATs so this would be borderline? Is there any situation where u would reraise the cbet like what type of villian? I'm not sure tbh, figured here with him donking it i had some chance of taking it down.
August 31, 2013
For hand 1, lets say you bet 1350 on the flop and he calls, the pot will be 7K on the turn with 12270 left. I think a bet of about 2.5K/3K is fine. It looks pretty strong and if sometimes you decide to 3 barrels you will have 9K in a 13K pot river, I guess it's fine. There is nothing wrong with X/F flop but as you said it's pretty weak especially if you are often stealing blinds, you can't X/F everytime on this kind of flops.
For hand 3 your open is totally fine but it's not an obligation. I don't like reraising flop because I don't think players are often bluffing on 0.5$, I think it's more often value and they will never fold on your raise (plus his sizing looks pretty strong). If you think he is bluffing I prefer a call, you have showdown value and if he has something like 89 he is probably going to stop his bluff. I think calling looks stronger that raising on pairs board. You are never raising 5x or TT or AA on this flop I guess but you are definitively calling.
I played a lot of 3$ and 6$ 45 men turbo on PS.com. I was 20 tabling and had pretty good results. My strategy was pretty simple, playing really tight on first levels (only strong hands, small pairs, some SC in position) and then when blinds increase playing an agressive push/fold strategy with bubulle abusing and nothing more. It's a really soft format where you can have a good ROI. You just have to master push/fold strategy!
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