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Merge Overbetting
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October 27, 2016 - 1:18 pm
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So I have been back on merge for about 2 weeks under the name HarrisonFord,  I am profitable over there,  but one of the adjustments I am struggling with are all these players who love to just bomb flops and turns overbetting the pot in the reenter portion of the tournament.   I feel like the frequency is enough that they are not just doing it nutted.  I am trying to do a lot of pot control and check calling but I keep getting in awkward spots, especially with pocket pairs where its really hard to range my opponents.  

Anyone else had experience with this? How are you guys dealing with these ranges

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Hey, its pretty simple if theres a lot of overbeting and some other aggro lines just strengthen your checking ranges, include more nut type hands in your x/c lines, also when you are preflop aggresor yourself include some strong hands in your chback range [top sets, weakish top pairs, 2nd pairs] so when your opponent will fire vs your checks you will be able to defend against his aggresion.

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I watched a pretty good video on overbetting vs capped ranges OOP. I think most of the examples were boards like 926r3x. Villain opens somewhere in LP, hero flats BB, ck ck, hero bets 1.25-1.5x pot. It’s cool pre-ante because you’ll get people to spew call off pretty poorly if they think you’re taking that line too often. Like if youre at 20/40 and the pots 220 on the turn, leading for 300, betting 1000 on the river with a set or a basically nut hand (I think nuts would be top pair+) and you’ll get snapped off by 65ss because they know that you know they shouldn’t have much after checking the flop. I think the video was on runitonce, but it could’ve been redchip. If it was redchip, I think the video was done by Andrew. The counter to people taking that line and making you uncomfortable playing rivers in this situation is to just check flop with some top pairs instead of cbetting all of it.

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Good post by Merfinis, would also add that static boards (rainbow, A/K/Q high) are the best ones for taking passive lines to induce overbet bluffs because there’s a much lower likelihood of you being in a really awkward spot by check-calling a big bet and then seeing a bad river in a big pot.

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In my experience with this type of betting it seems to be done by weaker post flop players. I think the basic theory is that if they bomb the pot on the flop they can fold out non-top pair 1 pair hands and all draws (except nutted combo draws) regardless of whether they actually have it or not themselves, they are basically trying to get you to fold 100% of the time on the flop. Sometimes you just have to reach down cop a squeeze of your balls to see how big they are today and go with your gut feel. The big bet on the flop is often a bluff or semi bluff. 

However, on the turn or rvr I would be a lot more wary of calling off light as these are much more likely to be over bets for value and much less likely to be bluffs.

Its a frustrating play to face on a frequent basis to be sure, but its No Limit Holdem and thats what makes it exciting.

You can use this play to your advantage as well, if it is a regular play on the site you play on it means other players are adjusting to it. You will probably get paid off much wider on the flop when you are nutted. What I am saying is to do the opposite to what most players are doing i.e. over pot bet for value on the flop (unlike villein who is using it as a bluff technique). 

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