View Plans & Pricing

If you are signed in and are seeing this message, please be sure you have selected a user name in My Profile. The forum requires it.
A A A
Search

— Forum Scope —




— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
sp_TopicIcon
Merge Deepstack $11: In the BB with QTs
Shadowplay
Guest
Guests
1
August 16, 2011 - 6:30 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

Villain has been at the table all of four hands, playing none.

 

Merge No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400.00/t800.00 Blinds – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Player1 (MP2): t24462.00 30.58 BBs – VPIP: 21, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 52
Player2 (CO): t16406.00 20.51 BBs – VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 5
Player4 (BTN): t29822.00 37.28 BBs – VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 8, AF: 3.5, Hands: 176
Player5 (SB): t21527.00 26.91 BBs – VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 29
Hero (BB): t11851.00 14.81 BBs – VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 2.2, Hands: 14987
Player7 (UTG): t23617.00 29.52 BBs – VPIP: 22, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 176
Player8 (UTG+1): t12896.00 16.12 BBs – VPIP: 18, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 176
Player9 (MP1): t6186.00 7.73 BBs – VPIP: 40, PFR: 40, 3B: NaN, AF: NaN, Hands: 5

Pre Flop: (t1200) Hero is BB with T of hearts Q of hearts
4 folds, Player2 raises to t1987, 2 folds, HERO….

 

Fold or shove here?

 

And what % of hands would you think are in the villains range, having no reads at all?  Is 22-25% standard?

okidokie
Guest
Guests
2
August 16, 2011 - 6:45 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

he's shoving for 2 and a half bb???? seems pretty academic to me. if he'd been at your table for longer so you could get more of a read on him i'd probably think about it more but chances are he's shoving with practically any 2. more likely some sort of Ax or Kx type hand, but certainly not exclusive to that range. QTs does flop reasonably well. it also depends what types are in the blinds as well. it looks like you've got a couple of taggy types in the blinds that don't 3bet much. if it was me i'd elect to raise this to about 5500 – 6000

 

obviously if that's just a typo and it's more than 2 and a half bb's then disregard everything i've just said

Shadowplay
Guest
Guests
3
August 16, 2011 - 6:58 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

He's raising about 2.4x from the CO.  He isn't shoving.  He's got 20BB. 

The villain is bolded.

FkCoolers
Cambridge, Ma (Central Square)
Member Moderator
Forum Posts: 1610
Member Since:
July 3, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
August 17, 2011 - 6:45 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

With no reads on villain it's tough but I agree that his CO opening range is probably somewhere in the 20's. 

A shove is perfectly reasonable but you also have a tight table. Lately I've been tightening up my re-shove range at tight tables and really widening my opening and open shoving (once I get short) range. 

Honestly I don't think either play is a mistake here.

weizened
Guest
Guests
5
August 17, 2011 - 2:35 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

FkCoolers said:

With no reads on villain it's tough but I agree that his CO opening range is probably somewhere in the 20's. 

A shove is perfectly reasonable but you also have a tight table. Lately I've been tightening up my re-shove range at tight tables and really widening my opening and open shoving (once I get short) range. 

Honestly I don't think either play is a mistake here.

I agree with coolers on the reshove ranges on merge, and open shoving is very profitable on there as well.  So many people seem to be limping as well, I have been shoving over limpers a ton lately in late position with 15-20 bbs with a ton of success, just watch the good players, they like to have a top 10 hand in that spot, but there are not many of those.  Oh, and watch out for that goddamn RonFezBuddy, he likes to have QQ when I have JJ, lol.  Only kidding RFB.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: 2780

Currently Online:
47 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

bennymacca: 2616

Foucault: 2067

folding_aces_pre_yo: 1133

praetor: 1033

theginger45: 924

P-aire 146: 832

Turbulence: 768

The Riceman: 731

duggs: 591

florianm1: 588

Newest Members:

Tillery999

sdmathis89

ne0x00

adrianvaida2525

Anteeater

Laggro

Forum Stats:

Groups: 4

Forums: 24

Topics: 12705

Posts: 75003

 

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 1063

Members: 12008

Moderators: 2

Admins: 5

Administrators: RonFezBuddy, Killingbird, Tournament Poker Edge Staff, ttwist, Carlos

Moderators: sitelock, sitelock_1