Ok from the villains perspective …

Keeping in mind his HUD numbers, I’d say he’s a reg. I think it’s also important to note that villain is sitting at 28bb before the hand … He has room to work here if he wants to make a play, which I think he may have.

The donk bettor rarely has all of the flop, so I think we can assume he is trying to take down the pot with air. If you are the villain, you know he probably has nothing or the nuts, and I’d lean towards air. Even the worst player in the world knows if you flop the world, you give the other bettors room to hang themselves. He was representing a jack with his bet, and doing it badly. The fact that he folded to the shove bears this out.

The villain sees the hero CALL a donk bet on a scary board. The call here gives us zero information. He might have a jack. Or a 5. Or nothing. Playing passive here … I hate it. Fold the hand now if you are going to just call here. A small 3bet gives you a world of info. If someone 4bets, you can lay this down, I think. If either floats, then shut it down and try to get to the river cheap, as you still have equity. I think the call is weak and the villain may have picked up on this. (ok maybe a shove into two players may be a bit spewy. It’s the Big Dog’s fault. Every time someone donk leads I hear “chips right in the grill” I mostly resist this urge, but I have done it to mixed results. The donk bettor was only strong once.)

Aaaanyway … So the villain floats, then jams the turn. This makes no sense for a decent player. I’m not assuming villain is decent, but his numbers at least indicate he at least somewhat knows what he is about. What would you do if you flopped this monster? Bluff with the best hand or extract as much value as possible? There are already people betting and calling bets. If I am the villain with a monster I don’t want to drive anyone out of this hand. I bet for value. Maybe against very aggro opponents I shove to induce a spaz, but usually only against one. Shoving with the near nuts makes little sense. The shove will drive off at least one of those chip stacks. Why would you try to get rid of the people who are putting chips into the pot? Even if you are afraid of the flush getting here or whatever. Keep the fish on the line.

Could we be beat? Sure. But the more I think about it, and the way it was played, the more I think this was a move on villains part. Or maybe a semi bluff with a 5 or a flush draw. Perhaps I am giving V too much credit. I think him having a jack is unlikely. 55 makes more sense.

With the action as it is, I just can’t see folding AA to this shove, not the way it went down. If I am beat, then I am beat and unless I am SURE I am beat, I am not laying this down. If V has outsmarted me, so be it. Nice hand, sir. Keep my chips warm, I’ll be back for them later. (because the turn jam is just aweful, IMO with trips or a boat)

I dunno, maybe I am out leveling myself. Things just don’t add up. Add to this that you still have a good sized stack if you loose. Plus, I know there are only two outs max, but you never know.

I still think this is a call. I don’t believe V’s line.