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We are not ITM yet, villain has recently doubled me by calling my turn ck/rs allin with a bare openender (hand is posted 5 posts down) . He has been very active and consistently opening 3.2X from all position with weak suited hands. He is running 48/27/0 over 34 hands, and has been flatting 3b OOP.
Preflop minraise is not std for me, but I wanted to risk the min isolating in this spot.
Merge, $10 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details CO: 8,695 (17.4 bb) BTN: 7,383 (14.8 bb) SB: 8,791 (17.6 bb) BB: 19,367 (38.7 bb) UTG+2: 25,149 (50.3 bb) MP1: 24,597 (49.2 bb) MP2: 4,988 (10 bb) Hero (MP3): 53,530 (107.1 bb) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with QA
[color="red"]UTG+2 raises to 1,600[/color], 2 folds, [color="red"]Hero raises to 2,700[/color], 4 folds, UTG+2 calls 1,100 Flop: (6,550) 7
[color="blue"] (2 players)[/color] UTG+2 checks, [color="red"]Hero bets 2,775[/color], UTG+2 calls 2,775 Turn: (12,100) 5
Hero....???
Assuming they are a big fish like you've stated, I know a lot of fish when facing a 3bet are going to 95% of the time check back any flop to you… whether they hit or not.
-If they hit, they will c/r you strong and it's usually because they have PFA (post flop anxiety) and want to end the hand there.
-If they miss they check fold a high% to a cbet.
BUT here you got the King coming on the turn (positivity rules) to make the nuts, so I think checking back here is ok becauseeee:
-When you turn the nuts, and they spaz out because they didn't get to c/r the flop and are now unsure of their hand (PFA), you win a shitload of chips.
-These types of spots can help balance your cbetting.
-If they did completely miss, they'll check again OOP and you can delayed cbet.
That's my two cents and I hope it makes sense… oh and lots of cents.
Merge, $10 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details CO: 8,695 (17.4 bb) BTN: 7,383 (14.8 bb) SB: 8,791 (17.6 bb) BB: 19,367 (38.7 bb) UTG+2: 25,149 (50.3 bb) MP1: 24,597 (49.2 bb) MP2: 4,988 (10 bb) Hero (MP3): 53,530 (107.1 bb) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
Posting the aforementioned hand from OP, to try to generate interest in this hand and show the type of villain I’m up against here:
Merge, $10 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details BTN: 17,100 (34.2 bb) Hero (SB): 23,510 (47 bb) BB: 10,500 (21 bb) MP1: 54,511 (109 bb) MP2: 23,252 (46.5 bb) MP3: 20,132 (40.3 bb) CO: 9,479 (19 bb) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[color="blue"] (2 players)[/color] [color="red"]Hero bets 2,000[/color], [color="red"]MP1 raises to 4,000[/color], Hero calls 2,000 Turn: (12,624) 8
So yeah, his range is wide and my F.E. dubious against this guy. Still firing turn?
Preflop: I don't mind 3betting vs an aggro player like this but I don't really like the sizing. With 5450 in the pot he needs to call 1100 giving him 5:1 odds on his money and that kind of player will be calling with all the hands he opens there (as will most players 50bb deep)
Flop: Every card out there is in his range at this point and we seen from the other hand you posted that he's not folding anything that's close. That being said I almost always cbet after I 3bet pre especially heads up. Checking gives us a free card to hit one of our overs or the K but will give him the chance to lead out on the turn if a scare card doesn't hit. It also gives him a free card that he may have folded on the flop. Betting allows you to remain in control of the hand, possibly take it down on the flop and lets you know a little more about where he's at and if he's not real confident in his hand it'll get checked to you on the turn.
Turn: We already know the villian is never folding if he's got any piece of the board so betting again on the turn is only building the pot and all we have at the moment is ace high. He could also be slow playing hands like JT AJ 89 and if you bet and he shoves you just threw away another 5-7k and have to fold. I would check looking to hit one of your two overs or the K
Though I'm not a huge fan of mini reraises in general, I liked this preflop spot for it. I knew I was ahead of OR's range, wanted to keep his dominated hands in, and didn't want to risk a huge stack against those left to act by putting more in the middle than I needed.
I agree with your turn analysis Donator.
Ok, I realize this hands too dull for a multistreet multiday analysis.
But this river spot is interesting IMO.
Is there value to be had by raising Broadway here when the backdoor flush arrives too?
River: (12,100) K
[color="blue"] (2 players)[/color] [color="red"]UTG+2 bets 6,050[/color], hero...
Well I think its been made obvious you should have 3bet bigger preflop… If you are ahead of his range and are sure he will call almost any two as he did in the hand where you had AKhh, why would you not want to win a bigger pot? These are the type of ppl you need to play more ABC poker with bc they will call with almost anything so bluffing is mostly useless unless you are repping some big hand…. As played I would defintely be betting the flop since you 3bet and are trying to take control of the hand…. Once he calls there he could have anything there: 7x, 10x, QJ however he'd probably raise QJ on this flop seeing the way he played that other hand so its most likely a 10 or a 7 or maybe a pair inbetween.
Once he calls your flop bet I would just check the turn, mostly bc you have nothing right now but you do have a draw at the nuts and a Q or A could even win it for you so take your free card. Also, if he had a pair on the flop he's not folding it now when a 5 shows on the turn. Check the turn and evaluate the river card. Obviously you hit the money card on this river but its going to be hard to get his stack the way the hand was played. Unless he is holding 89 i'm not sure he will call his stack off even with two pair…. I could be wrong here so feel free to correct me. I'm still a little torn about the river though bc if he is holding 89 its the perfect time to stack him, but if he's holding a flush you will be kicking yourself…
vs a good player a probably just call river because I can't see them calling our shove with worse. However we already know this is not a good player and I could see him calling off here with a smaller str8, 2 pair or a set enough to make it a profitable shove for his remaining 12-13k. If he backdoored the flush oh well. We still have 50+bb and a fish with a big stack. And IMO I like analyzing an interesting thin value spot as much as anything and it's where our edge is vs other competent players. Fun hand. gl at the tables
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