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Merge $10 no ante. Tight open from UTG, small 3bet all in, I have TT in CO
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November 22, 2012 - 12:42 pm
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UTG+2 is 31/8 over 13 hands so he tends to limp the bottom of his range. I guess I would have flat and played in position. When the shorty shoves, I dont know if I should…

 

1. Flat with the same plan

2. 3bet get it in

 

I decided to stick with my plan. On this Kxx flop, I think I can get QQ and JJ to fold with a good sized bet so I cant do a small cbet but if I bet bigger I guess I have to call a shove.

 

Would checking behind make any sense if I believe I can get some better hands to lay down with a strong bet? OR Should I have just 3bet gotten it in pre flop?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $10 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14666631

UTG+2: 2,750 (18.3 bb)
MP1: 6,246 (41.6 bb)
MP2: 2,210 (14.7 bb)
MP3: 653 (4.4 bb)
Hero (CO): 6,505 (43.4 bb)
BTN: 4,893 (32.6 bb)
SB: 3,710 (24.7 bb)
BB: 3,261 (21.7 bb)
UTG+1: 2,647 (17.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Tdiamond Theart
[color=”grey”]UTG+1 folds[/color], [color=”red”]UTG+2 raises to 300[/color], 2 folds, [color=”red”]MP3 raises to 653 and is all-in[/color], Hero calls 653, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 353

Flop: (2,184) Kdiamond 8spade 3club[color=”blue”] (3 players, 1 is all-in)[/color]
UTG+2 checks, Hero ?

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November 22, 2012 - 1:48 pm
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Here is a similar spot, but I think it is worse adn so my play was worse.

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[converted_hand][hand_history]Merge, $10 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14666871

SB: 18,098 (90.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 11,998 (60 bb)
MP1: 17,613 (88.1 bb)
MP2: 27,690 (138.5 bb)
MP3: 18,202 (91 bb)
CO: 1,773 (8.9 bb)
BTN: 2,347 (11.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7diamond 7heart
[color=”grey”]MP1 folds[/color], [color=”red”]MP2 raises to 700[/color], 2 folds, [color=”red”]BTN raises to 2,347 and is all-in[/color], [color=”grey”]SB folds[/color], Hero calls 2,147, MP2 calls 1,647

Flop: (7,141) 5spade Kclub 5diamond[color=”blue”] (3 players, 1 is all-in)[/color]
Hero ?

 

Im guessing this one should have been folded pre flop.

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In the TT hand I would 3b get it in preflop all day long. After the shortstack shoves, just click it back and call UTG+2's shove. Never cold-flat an open 18bb deep preflop. As played, bet/call 660 on the flop. I don't think he ever has JJ+ because he flatted preflop 18bb deep so your flop bet will be for value/protection. I think UTG+2 is pretty fishy with those HUD stats and is often flatting Ax and unpaired broadway cards and will x/f flop very often. 

The 77 should have been folded preflop especially with a 3.5x open and the 12bb shove pre-ante. As played, I have no ****ing clue what to do on the flop. I feel we should bet flop to protect against overcards, but a decent flop bet would be such a huge % of our remaining stack. Make a judgement call and if you think MP2 is either playing a mid-high (88-QQ) pocket pairs causiously preflop then x/f, but if you think he is flatting more Ax and broadway then bet/fold 2350. Either way, this spot is really shitty. It Comes down to how fishy you think MP2 is because your flat preflop looks VERY strong. 

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