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mandatory call?

petarlazovic

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September 16, 2010 - 5:35 pm

ooo, FML… I can't even post a hand… so 3rd and final atempt…

I'm pretty sure he is shoving a wide range that I'm ahead of… Should I take this +ev spot (I guess it's not that big of +ev), or should I wait for better one, since I'll have a very short stack if I lose

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t250.00/t500.00 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

guvvy (SB): t8212.00 16.42 BBs
keepplaya (BB): t10253.00 20.51 BBs
dorkieejai (UTG): t14244.00 28.49 BBs
krackedaces (UTG+1): t32143.00 64.29 BBs
Sesgador (UTG+2): t13939.00 27.88 BBs
AugB10 (MP1): t5930.00 11.86 BBs
imahustla1 (MP2): t17106.00 34.21 BBs
FishTank1212 (CO): t8390.00 16.78 BBs
callmynuts03 (BTN): t8305.00 16.61 BBs

Pre Flop: (t750) keepplaya is BB with 9 of clubs A of spades
3 folds, AugB10 raises to t5880, 4 folds, keepplaya calls t5380

Flop: (t12010) T of clubs 8 4 of spades

Turn: (t12010) Q of clubs

River: (t12010) 5 of hearts

moderators sorry for fisrt two attempts…

JDOG1645

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September 16, 2010 - 8:56 pm

Its close I probably fold simply from the position he jammed from but again it is very close.

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September 16, 2010 - 10:52 pm

I think you're a little bit behind here:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 53.579% 49.13% 04.45% 2331994608 211118868.00 { 22+, A4s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, A5o+, KJo+ }

Hand 1: 46.421% 41.97% 04.45% 1992274344 211118868.00 { A9o }

I don't see antes here so there's really not much overlay (even with antes it's probably not really much anyways). I think more +EV spots can be had.

Don't worry about the conversion problem I'll clean it up. smile

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September 17, 2010 - 12:32 am

i never flat that raise there pre out of position i either 3 bet shove in that spot which isnt a bad idea if villain has been agro at all or just snap fold you cant flat there and expect to outplay your opponent with such a small stack and folding to a wiffed flop is just giving equity away at a point where you just cant afford it

petarlazovic

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September 17, 2010 - 1:23 am

@RonFezBuddy

I think his range is more wider than that, 56s,86s, JTo etc.. so I guess I have about 53-55% against his range… so pritty marginal spot…

I'm not sure why there is no antes, I have them in txt, but when I convert hand they disapear…. I'm using txt from HEM…

Thx for clearing the mess 🙂

@ttwist

I was on bb and that guy shoves…

Another similar spot…. I just keep running on these spots….

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1000.00/t2000.00 Blinds – 8 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

keepplaya (SB): t47976.00 23.99 BBs
Agascha (BB): t41569.00 20.78 BBs
limaak (UTG): t49690.00 24.84 BBs
_DALNEGRO (UTG+1): t49432.00 24.72 BBs
spdracr307 (MP1): t66982.00 33.49 BBs
craveman (MP2): t23324.00 11.66 BBs
trc812 (CO): t29626.00 14.81 BBs
click_n_pray (BTN): t113646.00 56.82 BBs

Pre Flop: (t3000) keepplaya is SB with 8 of hearts A
3 folds, craveman raises to t23074, 2 folds, keepplaya raises to t47726, 1 fold

Flop: (t48148) Q of spades 8 of diamonds 8 of clubs

Turn: (t48148) 5 of clubs

River: (t48148) 9 of clubs

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September 17, 2010 - 11:45 am

Maybe I'm nitty but I fold both.

Nice flop in the 2nd hand, though.

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September 17, 2010 - 12:01 pm

I'm with Coolers, I think i muck and look to be the one opening the action with my stack. Having someone else in before me makes me nervous, I tend to prefer to open. Second hand looks like it works out promising for you however.

petarlazovic

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September 17, 2010 - 2:42 pm

I'm not happy with both hands either, unwillingly I get involved in both of them…

I'm just having a big problems with a stack of about 20-24bb and aggresion at my tables… I'm often card dead, and I can't manage to find many spots to steal, rarely is folded to me and someone always 3b me when I try to steal lite… If I wait for a hand I often blind away to 12-14bb and not manage to double up even if I get one… So I'm kinda trying this new approach where I'm using every spot, even if it is a marginal one… Not so happy with it so far…

btw. guy turned a set of 5's in second hand…

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September 17, 2010 - 2:55 pm

I really hate calling with shitty Ace X hands for a big piece of my stack. Can't think of a better way to say that.

For those of us with an edge at the tables I don't really think it's going to be profitable to close your eyes and click the call button with A9.

From my limited low stakes experience the button vs. blind and sb vs. bb push ranges are a lot different than $100 freezeouts. You just don't see enough jams with A2, A3, etc. to make calling with Ax profitable.

The last three times I had 20 bb's jammed on me from the button or SB and called I was shown AQ, AJ, and TT. The last three times I jammed 20 bb's and actually got called I was shown 99, AJ, and KQs.

Short-term results oriented I'm sure but my point is I'm not seeing the raggy hands included in there at all.

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