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June 23, 2014
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Preflop I think I really botched this hand because, beyond being a comfortable open fold, my 4bet sizing HAS to be larger to generate folds. I've been experimenting with smaller c-bet sizings with mixed results. I think on this board I don't care for the small sizing, since it makes it cheaper for him to float/draw/call-decide/semi-bluff raise and we want folds. At the same time it serves as a blocker bet since we have backdoors/gutshot with a disguised hand (more disguised if I sized properly pre). I feel like (as played) turn could be a check call but kinda barf if he goes big? Playing OOP sucks. Would love thoughts on all streets. I think suited this is an easy open but off-suit just chuck it.
Note: Pre-ante my standard open raise is 3x and once antes kick in I go anywhere between 2-3x depending on the table, usually always 2x once we get to 100/200 but starting to see the merit in mixing it up more throughout the whole tournament.
Game #77927427-50: Nightly High Roller - $20K Gtd [Super Deep] - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 50.00/100.00 Seat #0: bossmanupnow, $11517.00 Seat #1: j1j2jj1, $10280.00 Seat #2: spikedogger1, $7210.00 Seat #3: aapokerpro99bluffer (D), $6941.00 Seat #4: Srkeap15 (SB), $7215.00 Seat #5: PANKLER (BB), $8466.00 Seat #6: RideTheSploogeLuge, $9193.00 Seat #7: BallZach, $7490.00 Seat #8: AintNoLimit2, $4276.00 Srkeap15 posts the small blind of 50.00 PANKLER posts the big blind of 100.00 j1j2jj1 got hole cards [ Js: 9h: ] RideTheSploogeLuge folds BallZach folds AintNoLimit2 folds bossmanupnow folds j1j2jj1 raises with 300.00 spikedogger1 raises with 825.00 aapokerpro99bluffer folds Srkeap15 folds PANKLER folds j1j2jj1 raises with 1500.00 spikedogger1 calls 675.00 [ 7h: 6s: Th: ] j1j2jj1 bets 1400.00 spikedogger1 calls 1400.00 [ 7h: 6s: Th: ] [ Qh: ] j1j2jj1 ????????
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December 6, 2012
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This isn't a problem of sizing, you picked a bad hand to 4-bet. You should certainly bet again here with the amount of equity that you have, and in fact you've gotten lucky to get a runout that gives you a lot of equity to bluff with. The problem with using J9o as a 4-betting hand is that you'll rarely make either a strong made hand or a strong draw, and those are the two best types of hands to have in large pots, especially when out of position.
June 23, 2014
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As played (poorly preflop), what is the best turn line? Spoiler at end of this post.
How would we respond to these turns instead?
1) Any heart, and in particular A
or K
2) Any 8
3) Any 9
4) Any Jack
Please let me know if this style of post is discouraged; I'm new here!
Much appreciated if anyone has advice for converting Merge hand histories so that player names are converted to position.
Game #77927427-50: Nightly High Roller - $20K Gtd [Super Deep] - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 50.00/100.00 Seat #0: bossmanupnow, $11517.00 Seat #1: j1j2jj1, $10280.00 Seat #2: spikedogger1, $7210.00 Seat #3: aapokerpro99bluffer (D), $6941.00 Seat #4: Srkeap15 (SB), $7215.00 Seat #5: PANKLER (BB), $8466.00 Seat #6: RideTheSploogeLuge, $9193.00 Seat #7: BallZach, $7490.00 Seat #8: AintNoLimit2, $4276.00 Srkeap15 posts the small blind of 50.00 PANKLER posts the big blind of 100.00 j1j2jj1 got hole cards [ Js: 9h: ] RideTheSploogeLuge folds BallZach folds AintNoLimit2 folds bossmanupnow folds j1j2jj1 raises with 300.00 spikedogger1 raises with 825.00 aapokerpro99bluffer folds Srkeap15 folds PANKLER folds j1j2jj1 raises with 1500.00 spikedogger1 calls 675.00 [ 7h: 6s: Th: ] j1j2jj1 bets 1400.00 spikedogger1 calls 1400.00 [ 7h: 6s: Th: ] [ Qh: ] j1j2jj1 goes all-in with 7370.00 spikedogger1 goes all-in with 4300.00 j1j2jj1 shows [ Js: 9h: ] spikedogger1 shows [ Ad: Qs: ] [ 7h: 6s: Th: ] [ Qh: ] [ Td: ] spikedogger1 wins 14640.00 j1j2jj1 wins 3070.00
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December 6, 2012
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Not discouraged, I think your second post in particular is a good way of discussing these things, much more valuable to think in terms of how turn card affects strategy than just “what should I do in this one exact spot?” I think I'd check the 9, which gives you a decent pair and also puts a 4-straight on the board, but bet the others.
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