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LOL LETS FLOAT IP AND TAKE IT DOWN ON THE TURN?
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January 25, 2015 - 7:46 pm
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#Game No : 657941984

***** 888poker Hand History for Game 657941984 *****

$10/$20 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***

Tournament #65684179 $5 + $0.50 – Table #14 9 Max (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: london_ace ( $2,900 )

Seat 2: Apocalypse24 ( $3,000 )

Seat 3: jaFFar_d25 ( $3,170 )

Seat 4: MMA101979 ( $2,950 )

Seat 5: dollybear14 ( $3,000 )

Seat 6: smsfox ( $2,810 )

Seat 7: Siloozha ( $2,310 )

Seat 9: tomio834 ( $2,850 )

Seat 10: B0ltik ( $3,320 )

MMA101979 posts small blind [$10]

dollybear14 posts big blind [$20]

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to london_ace [ Kheart, Jheart]

smsfox folds

Siloozha folds

tomio834 folds

B0ltik raises [$44]

london_ace calls [$44]

Apocalypse24 folds

jaFFar_d25 folds

MMA101979 folds

dollybear14 folds

** Dealing flop ** [ 4club, Aspade, 6spade]

B0ltik bets [$55]

london_ace ???

 

hey

 

no reads

 

whilst i was in game , i was thinking maybe i should of floated flop and then raise turn? 

 

for instance if the turn came a spade , and v checks we can bet , if he then bets we could raise and try get him of an ax.

 

even if a spade never came in i think raising turn can be good , like for instance if the turn was 9heart v bets we raise it'll be pretty tough for him to call there unless he has a strong hand of course, if he calls we could bet big on the river and try get him of an ace. what can we rep by doing this, a set like 44/66/99.

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To me this is an easy fold. An ace is in his range here.

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you don't always have to fold here , sometimes you can float and take it on the next street…

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You should have a range for bluff-raising turn after calling flop. That doesn't mean you have to/should call flop with complete air. If you're going to make this play, do it with 8c 7c or something.

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yeah , maybe floating with air is a bit to much. we could float here with 8c7c for sure also flush draws. Call flop and raise turn and probably will have to bet on most rivers.

 

andrew,on your bluffing series part 3 you said

On wet boards your opponents are more likely to put you on a draw when you call, which is fine , you may end up bluffing fewer turns, but a lot of times you can do stuff like , call with middle pair and even so you have some showdown value if a draw gets there on the turn and your opponent shows some weakness you can represent that draw or you can call with an open ended straight draw and represent a flush draw if that gets there instead. You do have to think a little bit more about what you are representing and you have to be careful about bluffing when a draw doesn’t get there but a lot of times you can call and treat the draw as bluffing outs or potential bluffing outs depending on whether your opponent shows you weakness. 

 

so in this example , lets say our hand is 6h7h (same flop as above) we have 2ed pair ,turn – Tspade now if v shows weakness and bets  small or checks we can bet and represent a flush. 

 

sounds good?

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Yes, good application of that concept here.

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awsome , thanks 🙂

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