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LIVE: The low end of a boat, put to the test...
chip chimp71
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May 1, 2012 - 9:15 am
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The game is a fairly soft, local infested $105fo 5K gtd Sunday afternoon tournament at Binions–92 players total, 1st is $2300. Down to the final two tables. I've staged a comeback during the last 1hr to go from 12bbs to 25bbs (abusing the bubble with push fold against weakish table). The table has the tournament chip leader (late 20s Canadian who is working off of little sleep over the past few days and probably the only other better player at the table) with nearly 1/3 of the chips in play.

 

Hand: The Chip Leader from UTG+1 min raises (his opening bets ranged from min to 4x with no appearant pattern), I look at Aheart4heart and decide to see a flop, and BU (older local w/ 15BB) decides to come along.

 

Flop comes 10club4club10heart

 

CL leads out for about 1/3 pot. I float to see turn with the plan to jam most turns (non club and non broadway turns), I even thought about jamming the flop because of the equity my hand has here versus his percieved range but I lacked the FE. The old man gets out of the way.

 

The turn brings a 4spade

 

CL immediately states “All In” very confidently. This is for all my marbles two away from the bubble… I see him making this move with 10x, XclubXclub, and all of his As. With that stated I know it's very likely I'm way ahead or drawing dead; I believe ICM states I should fold here without hold a 10 due to the bubble.

 

Is this an insta call or fold given the situation (19BBs in my stack)? What would you do? I'll post results after feedback.

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May 1, 2012 - 9:36 am
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i prob 3bet or fold pre. as played you cant fold when you beat his overpairs, AKcc AQcc anything but 10x and 1010, 

assuming he is competent he will be raising super wide on the bubble with the chip lead, equally he will be barreling pretty wide if people are laying down hands like yours.

you should put down stack and pot sizes so its easier to get a feel for the dynamics at the table.

i dont like jamming flop because you fold out his weaker hands that will barrel turn, i prefer letting him barrel it in and keep his range wide. raising turn is prob better because he is priced in to call with alot of his A high hands. only advantage to raising flop is you may fold out like 55-77 which currently crushing us, but 88+ and J10 Axcc 109 are all calling regardless so we may aswell not narrow his range. on turn we are basically crushing everything but a tiny few combos of his range so snap him off, the 4 is actually a good card for him to bet for value with any pair and prob bets his A high expecting to get us off a split, plus it lowers the combos of hands that connected with that flop that we flat pre and flat flop to basically A4s/J10s/109s which is a super narrow nut range. so we have alot more floats just to float in comparison to value hands.

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May 1, 2012 - 1:48 pm
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Before I even scrolled down and saw duggs comment, I knew I was gonna say 3bet or fold pre. 3bet depends on the stacks behind you and whether they are capable of jamming. Otherwise it is a fold, dont flat crappy ace with 25bbs even if its suited. No chips to play with in mediocre scenarios post.

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May 3, 2012 - 4:40 pm
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i'm 3bet shoving here against this villain's perceived range ; the old guy is probably folding(obv. unless you've seen him flat/trap with big hands before-dolts are gonna dolt)…are you the BB in this hand?  You are not deep enough to be flatting here vs. guy who will prob cbet 100% of range here and knows you are missing most flops anyway(if you are focused on ICM you should be folding pre and not hoping to connect with flop).  Fold or ship pre, imo. 

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May 3, 2012 - 6:58 pm
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Fold/3b pre. Snap call post. Why would he bet so hard with the nizzles when you almost always hold nothing? Is he really putting you on bottom boat?

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3b pre or fold.  Never folding once we make our hand, just not deep enough too.  If there is an ICM mistake it's in calling pre instead of playing a 3b / reshove game with that stack.

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May 4, 2012 - 3:37 pm
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I wouldnt get involved with the CL competent player here with only 25 bbs preflop. Snap call post, if he has a T GG us on a cooler.

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