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Line check in bluff spot 20BB deep with Q8o - help ranging this player?
derSchwartz
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Hello,

Here is another bluff hand that I attempted, and I'm curious about the action on all three streets.

I don't have much info on the villain and I'm new to the table.  I have 25 hands on him and he plays 36/17, limping 21% and 3betting 25%.  I have no post flop history with him.  The blinds are 125/250, antes 25, and we're playing a 10$ turbo.  The villain is on the button and I'm in the CO.

BTN  Vil 2,985 (10 bb)
SB   2,250 (7.5 bb)
BB   5,430 (18.1 bb)
UTG   3,000 (10 bb)
MP   5,642 (18.8 bb)
CO Hero 5,866 (19.6 bb)
DETAILS:
User: Anonymous
Played Date: 01/14/2015
Limit: No Limit Hold'em Tournament
Site: Merge
Stakes/Buy-In: $11+$0.88
Players: 6
Profit:  

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 of hearts Q of diamonds
2 folds, Hero raises to 630, BTN calls 630, 2 folds

Flop: (1,890) 7 of diamonds 3 of hearts 7 of spades (2 players)

When he flats preflop on the button with a 10BB stack, I really don't know what to range him on.  It feels to me like anybody's guess when a player is new, whether they are doing this too often, with a wide range or whether they're anywhere along the spectrum to doing this very narrowly.  Since I figure it's obviously hard for me to hit this flop, and I was feeling uneasy about his preflop flat, I chose to try a delayed-Cbet, maybe see if the turn helped me a little, and to see what he does when I show weakness.

Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (1,890) 4 of hearts (2 players)

What should I make of his flop check?  Well it could easily be weakness. I haven't improved, but it's easy for him to have nothing, so I go ahead and delay Cbet like I planned.

Hero bets 630, BTN calls 630

River: (3,150) 8 of spades (2 players)

That's rough.  The moment I am able to decipher that he probably has something, I pick up showdown value.  I'm reminded of a recent lesson I learned here that players with short stacks don't float or call down with air that often.  But I do believe he can have low pairs, both pocket and flopped. What do you guys make of my equity here?  I'm at a loss as to what his range could be because I'm not sure what hands I should be choosing from at this point.

For example, is it safe to say that since the flop went check/check, I was fortunate enough to keep ace high and broadway hands in, most notably hearts that missed?  I think a shove or bet would be bad here, because I'd miss out on any more value from villain's hands I just rivered, whereas a check/call wins more chips from those hands and both lines can lose the same amount to hands I'm beaten with.

A big question is:  Should I consider myself having rivered significant showdown value here, or are any wins at this point complete anomalies?

Hero checks, BTN bets 1,695 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,695.

Thanks for reading.

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