Did I miss the meeting where it was decided that limping TT+ and AQo+ was a thing? I'm not referring to limp/raising either, just straight limping or limp/calling. This weekend I've had to add no less than 20 notes to players that read something like 'Limped JJ UTG w/ 19bbs post ante' or other variations of that. I understand the whole deception aspect of it but isn't it -EV in the long run to let in all kinds of garbage hands vs. just raising pre and getting the value from the times you get callers, cbet and take it down or hit your hand and get a couple streets or pick up the blinds and antes?

I get that if you're very good post flop that it can make sense to outplay them there instead of pre and sure it's way harder to range your hand, I totally understand that. But it is also tougher for you with QQ+ to range the BB who checks with 95o, flops 2 pair and sits back and check calls as you value own yourself all the way to the river.

Shouldn't the object of your preflop moves be to set up your post flop actions to leave very simple decisions for yourself? Seems to me like you can get yourself into some tricky spots by limping…