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Late in $3r - QJs
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January 14, 2013 - 7:28 pm
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$3r on Stars

11 of 36 – 1st hand at new table

$4k up top

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t8000/t16000 Blinds + t1600 – 9 players – View hand 2065378
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UTG+2: BB = 15.7, t251217
MP1: BB = 6.4, t101757
MP2: BB = 18.6, t297244
Hero (CO): BB = 31.4, t503097
BTN: BB = 33.4, t533652
SB: BB = 15.0, t240467
BB: BB = 62.1, t992902
UTG: BB = 21.5, t343441
UTG+1: BB = 18.7, t299588

Pre Flop: (t38400) Hero is CO with Q of hearts J of hearts
5 folds, Hero raises to t32000, 1 fold, SB raises to t238867 all in, Hero??

 

Open ok?

Call this shove?

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This is a fine open. Make sure you are aware before opening of the stacks and how you might react. In this case I think it’s close with no reads whatsoever I can find a fold button here. I think given the opponents range and the money already in the pot we have the equity to call so neither move is bad.

With no ICM implications I like calling here as we really have a huge stack if we win the pot.

I would like to ask wht range you put the opponent on here? I’d also poker stove tr spot if I wasn’t at work.

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Yah I just got home and am Pokerstoving. We are looking at around 40ish -46% equity given the ranges I'm putting on him reshoving. This is obviously readless and I'm given the player credit for understanding what a reshove is. With the dead money already in the pot I think this justifies a shove but I'm not skilled mathwise to figure out the exact number. any help from others would be great.

 

if this is a turbo too like i think it is prolly even more so.

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When I first read this my initial reaction was to say call as your hand plays well and can flop huge and obviously looks v pretty.

 

However, running the numbers through CallBot even with an extremely generous 20% shove range CallBot says 'No' and that you should fold, it is however v close with this range. If we tighten villains range a little to 15% its definite fold (15% looks like 55+, A2s+, KJs, QJs, A8o+, KQo) so fairly reasonable range.

 

So readless this is a Fold.

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When I opened I was thinking it would suck to get 3bet by any of them, but still felt right to open to take blinds or maybe get a flat and see a flop.

I couldn't put the SB on a reship range at all as first hand at table and therefore went for the cautious fold.

Thanks for running the numbers and backing me up guys 🙂

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it kinda has a feeling of a strong hand bcas he can see another round of the table for free other than the antes and try to find a better spot then a bluff or sc.

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I would just jam here.  Why open yourself to rejam when you can't call anyone except bb while readless? Opening looks just too steally. QJs 15bbs is a profitable shove and people folding lot of hands they tend to rejam. 

 

Edit: sorry, i'm donky, missread the stacks. Opening ok, would fold to rejam. 

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