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January 10, 2015
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Hey guys,
I am relatively new here at TPE, and just to give some background on where I'm at as a player so you can perhaps better answer my question: I recently decided to start studying poker seriously and slowly grind up a bankroll to prove to myself I am able to play profitably and that it is possible for me to be a winning player. I turned my initial $15 deposit in to over $100 just by grinding 9 man SnG's and managed to final table a random MTT I took a shot at for a nice profit too.
Now, after beginning my studies here I figured I could play in micro stakes MTT's (max 1$ buy in with the odd shot for 2-3$) but I have found the fishiness of the tables is getting to me, and I am struggling to adjust and change gears. Example: people are limping every single hand, and as such I have been playing very tight and only opening premium hands, and 8xing to get rid of all the limpers, but no one seems to care. Everyone just flat calls. In this situation, with so many people in the pot, I rarely connect decently enough to continue on in the hand.
It might also be worth throwing out there that after watching bigdogs video series on bankroll builders (45 man & 90 man SnG's) I have been beating these and turning a nice profit.
So my question is, what should I be doing differently to adjust and make deeper runs in these micro tournaments with such huge fields full of maniacs? Is it wise to ignore these all together and just focus on smaller field tournaments like SnG's to build my bankroll? I know I should stick to what's profitable, and I plan to continue with SnG's as well, but my aspiration is to be a winning MTT player and to ship some big tournaments, so any help or advice is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
January 10, 2015
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As somebody in a somewhat similar situation, I would suggest not starting with MTT's on Pokerstars. Huge variance being that they are massive fields. Even the 45 & 180's are reg infested. Although I do suck, I still suggest going elsewhere for MTT's.
January 10, 2015
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Jimmy2tymz said:
As somebody in a somewhat similar situation, I would suggest not starting with MTT's on Pokerstars. Huge variance being that they are massive fields. Even the 45 & 180's are reg infested. Although I do suck, I still suggest going elsewhere for MTT's.
Thanks for your input mate. I'm starting to feel the same way. Any sites you would reccomend? I had more success on FTP with MTTs to be honest, but maybe there are some more profitable places to grind up a roll?
January 27, 2014
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Sort of feel the same way the variance on stars is frustrating at times. I went few a decent run on $2.50 180 man sng's and strung together about 5-6 Top 3, but recently struggle to min cash, people just dont fold anymore and 3 barrell with air. To combat this i am putting in more volume but results are lacking.
I'm quite interested in seeing if there are smaller field mtt's elsewhere, i guess the opnly downside is the UI – some of them just dont feel smooth and then you have to setup hud etc..
Keep me posted with recommendations
January 10, 2015
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Uksupreme said:
Sort of feel the same way the variance on stars is frustrating at times. I went few a decent run on $2.50 180 man sng's and strung together about 5-6 Top 3, but recently struggle to min cash, people just dont fold anymore and 3 barrell with air. To combat this i am putting in more volume but results are lacking.
I'm quite interested in seeing if there are smaller field mtt's elsewhere, i guess the opnly downside is the UI – some of them just dont feel smooth and then you have to setup hud etc..
Keep me posted with recommendations
I plan to have a look around today. Whatever site I choose will laregely depend on whether they support HM2 as well, so I will let you know. Thanks for your input good sir 
January 10, 2015
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I've heard 888 has some smaller and softer fields than most, but I have not played there.
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Good advice on here about finding smaller fields. I'll add, though, that you also need to reassess how you think about your strategy and objectives. If you have Jacks and six people want to limp and call huge raises with 85s, you should welcome that. Yes, you will win the pot less often, but you will still win more than 1/7 of the pots, and you are getting 6:1 on your money. Your profit in poker comes from other people's mistakes.
January 10, 2015
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Very true, and thanks for the advice. I should be welcoming such mistakes on their part. It's just that I was tilting a lot easier due to bad beats so it's causing me to be frustrated when this happens, and it's probably partly because I was much more easily scared off my hand as a result of it. I.e. assuming that they have hit their flush/straight. I just came back from a break so I could meditate and study to get my mind right again.
By the way guys, I just started playing on Party Poker, they have some decent deep stack tournies at micro stakes with fields of 100-200 and they are VERY fishy. I've had donks shove raising me with Ace high over my second barrels when I have a made hand all day. Very profitable if you're a micro stakes grinder like myself.
January 27, 2014
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Foucault said:
Good advice on here about finding smaller fields. I'll add, though, that you also need to reassess how you think about your strategy and objectives. If you have Jacks and six people want to limp and call huge raises with 85s, you should welcome that. Yes, you will win the pot less often, but you will still win more than 1/7 of the pots, and you are getting 6:1 on your money. Your profit in poker comes from other people's mistakes.
Agreed, I guess the fields are so big on stars and unless you can put the hours in to combat the variance its a difficult journey. I havent spent a great deal looking into other sites and therefore stars gets most of my action. But would be great to know a few more sites with smaller fields to see how i measure up etc.
Not wanting to come across in a results orientated way as I'm happy if i feel that i played the hand / mtt to my best ability or indeed glean some learning from the hh review.
January 27, 2014
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Jimmy2tymz said:
I've heard 888 has some smaller and softer fields than most, but I have not played there.
Just deposited a small amount to try out and i agree with Jimmy, much smaller fields and alot softer in comparison to stars. Going to have a look at this evenings schedule and see what happens.
January 10, 2015
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Let me know how it works for you… maybe I'll join you there. Also, I heard Party Poker is pretty soft with smaller fields.
January 27, 2014
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Let me know how it works for you… maybe I’ll join you there. Also, I heard Party Poker is pretty soft with smaller fields.
Yes mate get involved, I played party a while ago and just hated the UI and really struggled with hud setup etc , maybe I’ll try again soon.
January 10, 2015
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Party is all good guys, very soft, just be aware that the site is pretty unstable and they are realy weird about withdrawals. They just denied a withdrawal request of mine because I haven't played as many games as they would like since it's their policy to “encourage play rather than people making withdrawals too fast after depositing” seems a bit shady to me.
January 3, 2015
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Try playing the reg speed 180's on stars. The $4.50 ones are pretty soft but if you are playing $1 mtt's that might be a bit much, so they also do $1 180 man reg speed which is just full of value. Another tip for micro mtt's on stars is try to enter the tournaments with capped number of players, or ones with no gauruntee. Even just playing at off peak times can reduce variance alot due to the smaller fields. A few ones off the top of my head i can think of are: 3.30 60cap, 2.20 100cap (which is extremely soft), 1r big antes never usually gets more than 300players, 2.2 4max shoot-out is usually capped at 256 i think, meaning you need to win 3games if it fills to reach the money (the roi in this tournament is insane even for a min cash). There is a couple others aswell. Mix these tournaments in with some $1 180man reg speeds and you should be fine. If you can, try to stay out of things like the 55c $500 gaurunteed the variance is going to be insane in these types of tournaments with always about 3k runners.
One thing ive noticed in my own game aswell which i never used to consinder is that dont get disheartened if you bust a couple of tournies striaght away or even take a hit in your stack. It used to be a real challenge for me mentally to stay focused and believe i could still win the tournament if i lost a big pot early on, but honestly if you make the best decisions you can it will turn out good for you.
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