August 6, 2012
Ok, Villain has only been for 30 hands at the table, but he has been fairly active, pushing around other smaller stacks. For this 30 hands he's running 35/24 2.0 agg
This is practically the bubble, as there is only 49 players at this time and the tourney payed 45.
Could you guys provide any info on how you play it? what are your plans for diff turns? rivs? are you looking to raise at any point in the hand? on this flop? on some turns? Any comments appreciated. HH converter did not work for me btw :S
IPoker, $2 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: 8,686 (4.3 bb)
BB: 23,685 (11.8 bb)
UTG+2: 21,260 (10.6 bb)
MP1: 27,956 (14 bb)
MP2: 66,001 (33 bb)
MP3: 25,975 (13 bb)
CO: 42,794 (21.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 43,463 (21.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with K Q
2 folds, MP2 raises to 6,000, 2 folds, Hero calls 6,000, 2 folds
Flop: (16,600) 2 8 K (2 players)
MP2 bets 8,000
With 20bb my standard line is to ship this pre. Calling and folding flops i miss is too ugly, and by shipping im only really in bad shape vs AK AQ QQ KK AA, and since he is opening so much i think its a great spot to shove. I expect him to fold a decent amount of bad aces and his pairs lower than 88.
But given the stacks around the table it looks like this is playing very shallow with a low avg stack- so I do kinda understand calling aswell, althought i don't really like it.
As played im just calling his bet on the flop. There arent that many cards you don't like on the turn and he is likely to be drawing to only 3 outs to your hand.
I bet on most turns if checked to, perhaps checking back an ace turn.
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August 6, 2012
Hey guys, thanks a lot for your comments here. Basically, I don't want to shove pre. I would most of the time, but I'm working on my post flop game and I think this was a decent spot to try and play some post flop poker.
I also think that if I jam KQ here, he may look me up with some hands that I beat, but most hands that beat me or im flipping against are most likely calling, all other fold. I think i might have an edge post and was looking to get into some spots. I def aggree that 20 bigs is a nice stack to shove, but i also think its good.
My plan for the hand is fairly simply, play for my whole stack if I hit TP, or an 8out draw.
When this flop hits, I agree shoving is not good, as we do not accomplish much. Sure, we can be looked up by KJ here once in a while, but most likely he's folding all of his PP's and weaker Ks his continuing with as well as the ocassional whiff, so my plan now is to call flop and re raise all in, or shove if checked to, any turn unless its an A.
Any comments?
I understand that you want to play more post flop, but when stacks are getting shallow it becomes more profitable to be taking more preflop decisions. Yeah if you had a deeper stack, I would more than likely flat and play a flop, but since you basically have a perfect 3 bet shove stack, against a guy who is opening pretty wide, this is a very profitable shove pre IMO.
As played I like flatting the flop. Board is very dry and raising/jamming will just fold out all worse hands (maybe not Kx) while calling keeps all his bluffs in, and he could very easily double barrell given his agg factor.
Hope this helps 🙂
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