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KK on wet board against unknown player
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January 5, 2013 - 7:31 am
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Villain was new at the table. Before that hand he playted only once – he doubled up with KK.

It was a tough spot becasue I hadn't any reads or HUD statistics.

 

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t60/t120 Blinds + t15 – 9 players – View hand 2053342
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

BB: BB = 83.1, t9975
Hero (UTG): BB = 82.9, t9945
UTG+1: BB = 74.2, t8902
UTG+2: BB = 19.6, t2349
MP1: BB = 48.5, t5824
MP2: BB = 100.7, t12083
CO: BB = 58.0, t6965
BTN: BB = 27.0, t3240
SB: BB = 27.3, t3280

Pre Flop: (t315) Hero is UTG with K of diamonds K of spades
Hero raises to t300, 3 folds, MP2 calls t300, 4 folds

Flop: (t915) 6 of clubs 2 of spades 3 of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t585, MP2 calls t585

Turn: (t2085) Q of spades (2 players)
Hero bets t1320, MP2 calls t1320

River: (t4725) 8 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t2699, Hero??????

 

What should I do?

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January 5, 2013 - 7:44 am
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firstly, i dont think this is that much of a wet board. given you are UTG and the flush was runner runner, i doubt there are many flushes in villain's range. seems to me to be much more weighted to pocket pairs. 

 

i think its a pretty safe runout actually, and villain hasnt shown you anything yet you tell you he has the best hand, so i think i bet-fold 2450

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January 5, 2013 - 8:42 am
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I think we can go bigger benny, id be going slightly bigger on all streets. definitely calling as played.

i bet like 2900-3100 on the river

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The fact that the turn didnt scare him makes me think he has Qx clubs or a weakly played two pair or better. I can see 88-JJ too. You have to bet fold the river because he is calling with worst and hardly ever raising as a bluff.

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Agree with benny that you need to look a board texture compared with villains range, this is not a wet board.
You say he is unknown but this board is great for your hand vs both fish and regs.
A loose fish will have all sorts of crap in his range that you can just bet big on all 3 streets for max value.
A reg will usually have mid pairs, some broadways and maybe some suited connectors.
The turn is a great card for you vs regs because it will hit some of their floating range, eg AQ/KQ and some regs will be stubborn with their mid pp’s here too because they think you may bluff the over card. You get value from a flush draw too but if you look at the combinations of flush draws in his range they will be a very small part.
The river is perfect to bet again as the only hands that improve are the stubborn 88 and the odd runner runner, again a tiny part of his range. The rest of the hands that called the turn may well call again on the river but will mostly check back if you check. (I know that didn’t happen here because they bet river when you checked but most of the time they will check).

As played call.

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January 12, 2013 - 12:09 am
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  The flush is a possibility, but from my expereince at these stakes the villian has AQ or thinks he is good with Ax here. I have no problem getting it in.  <$15 buyin, I usually get screwed playing KK conservative.

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