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November 24, 2013
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Poker Stars $10+$10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1500/t3000 Blinds + t375 – 9 players
UTG: t67653 M = 8.59
UTG+1: t20119 M = 2.55
UTG+2: t40657 M = 5.16
Hero (MP1): t106308 M = 13.50
MP2: t34705 M = 4.41
CO: t226928 M = 28.82
BTN: t59659 M = 7.58
SB: t67234 M = 8.54
BB: t75875 M = 9.63
Pre Flop: (t7875) Hero is MP1 with K
K
3 folds, Hero raises to t6000, 2 folds, BTN calls t6000, 2 folds
Flop: (t19875) T
Q 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t7552, BTN calls t7552
Turn: (t34979) J
(2 players)
Hero bets t10143, BTN calls t10143
River: (t55265) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t35589 all in, Hero folds
80 left of 2k. Villain is 18/13/2.5, 3bet 8, 60 hands. Shoved on my late position raises twice before, I folded. No other reads.
May 4, 2015
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Interesting spot Fire,
I'm a beginner myself but I found this spot useful to think about and will share my thinking.
Preflop it seems we can discount some of his strongest hands since there's a good chance he would have 3bet or shoved. He's been decently tight overall, so I would put him on something like medium pocket pairs JJ-77, suited broadway & connectors like AJs-A9s, KQs-KTs, QJs-T9s, QTs-J9s and maybe some offsuit broadway like AQo-ATo, KQo-KTo.
You lead out on the flop and he calls. At this point I could see him playing top pair, two pair, sets and straight/flush draws this way. It would help to know if he seems the sort to semibluff raise draws or not, but he may be content to call as long as you keep betting out since he has position.
He calls again on the turn, though your turn bet sizing is pretty small so he could still be on a draw at this point.
When he bets the river rather than checking, I think we can discount the marginal made hands and put him either on a missed draw he's turning into a bluff, a drawing hand that happened to river a set of jacks or maybe a set he was slow playing all along. I think the story of him being on a set of tens or jacks is fairly credible at this point and I like the fold here. I'm unsure about your bet sizing on flop/turn though.
November 24, 2013
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Hi Ivellis,
good analysis I agree with many points. On the flop one can definitely bet bigger. I made a standard weakish cbet mostly because I was hoping he would raise/shove over it with many Qx or draws. The turn is in my opinion the most interesting street here, I considered all options but an overshove seemed too spewy to me and a check too weak. If I bet the turn any bigger it would basically be a shove. I bet the turn small because a) I could still have the best hand and get folds or charge him to draw, b) set up a shove in case my straight draw hits. IMO my line looks quite strong so I doubt he has many bluffs in his range.
Still not sure what the best option on the turn is, you can make an argument for either checking, betting or shoving.
September 14, 2014
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my line would be to c/r gii OTF, you have the k
i just think your hand is a good candiate for it. You remove a few combo's of flushes also if v checks behind otf (no big deal)we can safetly say its unlikely they have flush draws in their range since they would of likely bet or even shoved those.
I do agree that you should have bet flop bigger , around 9500-10k which will set up a nice turn shove, villan has great odds to continue with draws ott with your small sizing here or even a hand like AT ain't folding. I don't think the turn is good for us btw , though when villian calls the turn i'm going to discount sets/two pairs for sure , i reckon they would of got these in. As for the river i dont think that changes much at all , i'd shove river hoping to get called by Qx. Villian may also put us on a miss draw and call a bit lighter then the usual.
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December 6, 2012
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I'd bet a good deal more on flop, something like 60-75% pot. Check-raise is also an option to consider. I'd definitely check turn. What does betting accomplish? What do you mean when you say you think it would be “too weak”? I mean, what's the connection between “weak” and winning or losing money here?
February 1, 2013
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On this flop I'm pretty happy to chk. While this hits our range it is wetter than a weekend by the seaside in February, therefore by betting we are bloating a pot for later on further streets. Yes we have KK I know, but in my eyes on this board I'm pretty chuffed to get 2 streets of value and I still think we can get them on the T & R from all the V hands we beat (ie Qx/Tx). Yes we might lose some value from the drawing hands V has, but equally by the T he can have a lot 2pr hands if we see a broadway T. Therefore I'm quite happy to play this hand with caution, especially as V as postion on us and try to get to SD without facing big decision for a huge pot. We have 1 pr and I' hate losing my brains with just 1pr, albeit an overpair at that. If V bets F after we chk we can then stick in his eye. If he chk's behind we learn a bit more about his range (ie probably marginal SDV like Tx and weak Qx) as I would expect him to bet all his primary draws when chk'd to on the F along with his decent TP hands.
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January 16, 2015
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I look at that turn and see that I've got two overcards and an up and down straight draw. It looks like a good candidate to c/r all-in, except I don't think we can get a better hand to fold, and a worse hand calling is unlikely.
Slow played aces might fold (big might, players hate laying down their aces), but slow played aces would've tried to get it in on the flop — and it's only a tiny part of the villain's range.
Yeah, after the flop I would have to go into pot-control mode and try to get to showdown. I don't like putting myself in the position of check-calling, but hopefully the villain checks-back on the turn so we only have to catch a smallish river bluff. Or more likely lose a smaller pot given the way the hand actually played out.
The small turn bet looks weaker than a check to me here. After the villain calls the flop, any strong hand would be betting more for value on the turn or checking to trap. As a result I think the small turn bet looks like what it is, a blocking bet.
It's entirely possible your opponent saw through that turn bet and jammed the river with diddly-squat. With that board hitting the villain's range so squarely though, I think it's more likely that you were just plain beat.
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