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KK on a flop, crazy action
TaijiX
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July 18, 2010 - 4:56 pm
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I was just so confused by both players wanting action on this board… I feel like I should be good here and they might be on a straight draw, but how do you proceed?  And could you lay this down ever, if you think you're beat?

This is early in the mill, no info on villians other than they don't seem to be too crazy.

 

Poker Stars $200 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds – 9 players

Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

tanumfr (UTG): BB = 212.1, t10605

Yugios (UTG+1): BB = 189.5, t9475

albion55 (UTG+2): BB = 198.5, t9925

mkb1mkb1 (MP1): BB = 205.9, t10295

caiodream (MP2): BB = 197.0, t9850

pireus (CO): BB = 195.0, t9750

nasud 11 (BTN): BB = 200.0, t10000

depunisher68 (SB): BB = 203.5, t10175

elmagicgato (BB): BB = 198.5, t9925

Pre Flop: (t75) Yugios is UTG+1 with K[Image Can Not Be Found] K[Image Can Not Be Found]

1 fold, Yugios raises to t150, 5 folds, depunisher68 calls t125, elmagicgato calls t100

Flop: (t450) 7[Image Can Not Be Found] J[Image Can Not Be Found] 9[Image Can Not Be Found] (3 players)

depunisher68 checks, elmagicgato bets t300, Yugios raises to t1000, depunisher68 calls t1000, elmagicgato raises to t2850, Yugios

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July 18, 2010 - 5:19 pm
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sick spot. likely str8t drws, elmagic is tryn to repp str8t already. for some reason i cant see the suits that are out there. always tough to lay down kk when there is no Ace. with reads on villians im leaning mor toward the fold side. its early in tourny and u've found ueself in a multi way pot on an extremely drwy board. would'nt hate a fold but dont blame u if u called.

 

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July 18, 2010 - 5:39 pm
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Tuff spot. I think this is a unhappy fold. elmagicgato was blinded and got to see a cheap flop. He probably spiked 2 pair and you are way behind. Still have plenty to work with if you lay it down. When I am in the blind and donklead like he did, I usually have a big hand and hope to be raised.

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I thought they had something like AJ/KJ or straight draw, possibly QQ.  The fact that 2 of them were in the pot just confused the hell out of me and I just jammed it in.  Depunisher folds and elmagico flips over set of 7s.

 

Soooo, shitty deal, definetly a huge leak of mine is I can't fold big hands and don't give people credit when the flop isn't obvious about it, but that aside…

 

Can you ever flat his re-re-raise or pop it back at him to try to see what he wants to do?  Or do you pretty much have to jam or fold (and probably should've been a fold given the action and how deep we were).

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I know for me when I get into these types of situations I always jam to see where things are at, and usually end up on the short end of the stick. As I am trying to plug a similar leak in this situation I would have had a real hard time laying down the hand but looking at the action it would probably be the best course. Would have hurt like hell and I would have hated every friggin minute of it, but the post flop action definitely says that he has something significant and he isn't willing to go away. I wish I could say that I would have been savvy enough to fold here, but I am just not there yet 🙂

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July 18, 2010 - 8:35 pm
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Sigh, I knew at least one of them was full of crap and I was right -.-

 

Like you said, too curious not to shovel them in and see.

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