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Thoughts about this hand… I noticed the guy loved A rag and would call OOP all the time with it. With the A on flop I decided to play small ball and I could rep the A on the turn as the board was dry. He donks the turn small and I had seen that before by him with middle pair so I make a suspicious min raise folding to a repop was the plan and if called get to the river hopefully cheap. I saw no value in betting the river as I had seen him show Arag down like this before on a wet board…thoughts?
PokerStars Game #45350993994: Tournament #281643010, $10.00+$2.50+$1.00 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XII (150/300) – 2010/06/11 0:10:13 ET
Table ‘281643010 8’ 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Hungover29 (3548 in chips)
Seat 2: Marcello68 (16011 in chips)
Seat 3: RosyMonaLisa (11367 in chips)
Seat 4: Dakicker (12192 in chips)
Seat 5: BigVits (5299 in chips)
Seat 6: kallikula (20839 in chips)
Seat 7: zzbr10 (14859 in chips)
Seat 8: may64 (6790 in chips)
Seat 9: layitdownplz (3383 in chips)
Hungover29: posts the ante 40
Marcello68: posts the ante 40
RosyMonaLisa: posts the ante 40
Dakicker: posts the ante 40
BigVits: posts the ante 40
kallikula: posts the ante 40
zzbr10: posts the ante 40
may64: posts the ante 40
layitdownplz: posts the ante 40
kallikula: posts small blind 150
zzbr10: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dakicker [Kc Ks]
may64: folds
layitdownplz: folds
Hungover29: folds
Marcello68: folds
RosyMonaLisa: raises 300 to 600
Dakicker: raises 900 to 1500
BigVits: folds
kallikula: folds
zzbr10: folds
RosyMonaLisa: calls 900
*** FLOP *** [8c 4d As]
RosyMonaLisa: checks
Dakicker: checks
*** TURN *** [8c 4d As] [5h]
RosyMonaLisa: bets 900
Dakicker: raises 900 to 1800
RosyMonaLisa: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [8c 4d As 5h] [4c]
RosyMonaLisa: checks
Dakicker: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
what’s the point in minraising the turn? I guess it got you a free show down, but I don’t think you ever get a worse hand to call, nor do you get a better hand to fold. I just call and probably station the river on most spots.
The min raise was for two reasons in my mind, this guy was kind of passive unless super strong. So if he calls I think I get a free showdown if I dont improve on the river and it gives me a some information. I just didnt want to call and face a big river bet. And I disagree a worse hand will call, this hand reflects that 🙂
TPE Management
March 17, 2010
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Yeah I think i’m just stationing down too. You said he loves A rag, it’s a decent part of his range. Even if this guy did call with worse, you are going to fold out a lot of villains here.
You put in an additional 900 and in many cases end the hand with him folding or raising you again.
I think in many cases, without an A he’s not going to triple barrel you. You probably see the same river action without the extra 900.
I thikn the minraise gives you a free card on the river most of the time. I would though personaly hope for a cheap showdown given his range .
I just had a read on him that he was passive with weak hands and liked to donk for info, I also knew he liked A rag. So I figured he had either of those two hands, he didnt play aggressive unless he had a huge hand. So I figured the min raise allowed me to set the price for the hand as he would check A rag on the river. I wasnt going to try and blow him off it either because he already showed me a couple times he doesnt like to fold. So thats why I thought the min raise was a good idea, if he came back over the top I could easily fold.
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