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KK Fold Riv?

danulam

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January 6, 2012 - 12:02 pm

Villain is running a VPIP 21 PFR 9…Bigger flop bet? which would make turn bet bigger…can I fold this River?

Poker Stars $30+$3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds + t10 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

lov10k (UTG+2): BB = 47.6, t3806
goodRRase198 (MP1): BB = 37.3, t2980
Hero (MP2): BB = 55.1, t4405
KAPunKAP01 (CO): BB = 113.7, t9098
the.black73 (BTN): BB = 49.6, t3972
sister_tw800 (SB): BB = 71.4, t5715
Asj.Taylor (BB): BB = 51.6, t4127
Pokerfunboy (UTG): BB = 17.4, t1392
IMissParkerI (UTG+1): BB = 37.4, t2990

Pre Flop: (t210) Hero is MP2 with K of clubs K of spades
1 fold, IMissParkerI calls t80, 2 folds, Hero raises to t280, 4 folds, IMissParkerI calls t200

Flop: (t770) 8 of hearts 6 Q of clubs (2 players)
IMissParkerI checks, Hero bets t280, IMissParkerI calls t280

Turn: (t1330) 9 of diamonds (2 players)
IMissParkerI checks, Hero bets t899, IMissParkerI calls t899

River: (t3128) 9 of hearts (2 players)
IMissParkerI bets t1521 all in, Hero calls t1521

Final Pot: t6170
Hero shows K of clubs K of spades (two pair, Kings and Nines)
IMissParkerI shows K of hearts T (a flush, King high)
IMissParkerI wins t6170

arukidinme

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January 6, 2012 - 12:48 pm

I would probably bet more on all streets I would try to get towards 5x pre because it will be easier to gii by the turn. the sooner that you start to get chips in the middle the easier it is to get them all in. By betting small pre and OTF you leave that weird 1/2 PSB for the river

Double suited connecting flops I typically bet more on. I think that you can go somewhere around 60% of pot without scaring any money away. The flop is connected and wet so a wider range should be calling so we can bet more and more often for value.

This is how I would try to size the hand out. you can go between 4-5x pre and should be able to gii on the turn

Poker Stars $30+$3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds + t10 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (t210) Hero is MP2 with K of clubs K of spades
1 fold, IMissParkerI calls t80, 2 folds, Hero raises to 380 4 folds, IMissParkerI calls t300

Flop: (t970) 8 of hearts 6 Q of clubs (2 players)
IMissParkerI checks, Hero bets t600, IMissParkerI calls t600

Turn: (t2170) 9 of diamonds (2 players)
IMissParkerI checks, Hero bets 2010 all in effectivly

hawkeyeK9

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January 6, 2012 - 2:57 pm

Should not have shown the results. I would have told you all day it is a flush. Could have been a set until his river bet said it all that it was a flush. Definitely bigger flop bet is needed just in general for optimal play. My standard cbet on that flop is about 380-420. However, not sure it matters because I think villian chases anyway. You got to ask yourself what villian has, if it looks 100% like they got there, they usually did.

You 3bet the limper pretty decent. Whenever there is a villian limp/calling a decent bet like that, it is almost always a small to med pair and set mining or two suited cards. He is a fish, we know this by the preflop action and need to use that info.

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